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Topic started on 12-2-2009 @ 07:48 PM by redhatty

And the Republicans aren't even being given a chance to read it!!!!

Source

In a press conference Thursday, the House Republican leadership spoke candidly about being kept out of the House-Senate conference on the Obama-Pelosi-Reid so-called “economic stimulus” bill. They confirmed they had not yet seen the text of the bill as of 4 p.m.

Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said he was unsure how many Democrats would vote with Republicans again on this bill but that he thought Republicans “may get a few” Democrats to side with them. The fact that the Demos have now broken their promise to have the public able to see the bill for 48 hours may drive more Dems into the Republican camp.

“[I] don’t know, ‘cause they haven’t seen the bill either,” Boehner said.

“The American people have a right to know what’s in this bill,” Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind) told HUMAN EVENTS after the press conference. “Every member of Congress -- Republicans and Democrats -- voted to post this bill on the internet for 48 hours, 48 hours ago. We’ll see if the Democrats keep their word.”

Actually -- as of 5:15 pm, the Democrats had broken their word. The stimulus bill -- which we still haven’t seen -- will be released late tonight and will be brought up on the House floor at 9 am tomorrow.

What kind of crap is this - putting it to a vote without either the Republicans in Congress OR the American people being able to see the bill.

If this doesn't get your dander up, what's wrong with you?

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 07:49 PM by skeptic1

At least the date is appropriate.

How much good actually happens on Friday the 13th?? Not much and this will be just one more bad thing....

[edit on 2/12/2009 by skeptic1]

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 08:00 PM by RRconservative

What we need is a good old fashioned filibuster. Where is Strom Thurmond when you need him? Better yet maybe we can find a few Democrats with a conscience?

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 08:04 PM by redhatty

Oh boy, this just keeps getting better

Congressional Offices Don't Have the Stimulus Bill, Lobbyists Do

We're receiving E-mails from Capitol Hill staffers expressing frustration that they can't get a copy of the stimulus bill agreed to last night at a price of $789 billion. What's more, staffers are complaining about who does have a copy: K Street lobbyists. E-mails one key Democratic staffer: "K Street has the bill, or chunks of it, already, and the congressional offices don't. So, the Hill is getting calls from the press (because it's leaking out) asking us to confirm or talk about what we know—but we can't do that because we haven't seen the bill. Anyway, peeps up here are sort of a combo of confused and like, 'Is this really happening?'" Reporters pressing for details, meanwhile, are getting different numbers from different offices, especially when seeking the details of specific programs.

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 08:06 PM by Stormdancer777

OH dear, there is that number 13 again.

Along with the 13 a week tax breaks

very occult

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 08:08 PM by Vitchilo

And in it, Dianne Feinstein is trying to ram in some hardcore RIAA legislation.

That old biatch

And there's the eugenics from the health care clause...

And Obama is just getting started. Just watch what he does with gun control legislation.

And about Iran...

Here
In his news conference this week, President Obama went so far as to describe Iran's "development of a nuclear weapon" before correcting himself to refer to its "pursuit" of weapons capability.

So Obama is letting the ``bombing Iran`` door open... how surprising... NOT.

[edit on 12-2-2009 by Vitchilo]

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 08:10 PM by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by RRconservative
What we need is a good old fashioned filibuster. Where is Strom Thurmond when you need him? Better yet maybe we can find a few Democrats with a conscience?

can't find a few Democrats with a conscience?

This is sad, what is happening to people?

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 08:12 PM by Vitchilo

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 08:14 PM by David9176

reply to post by redhatty

What kind of crap is this - putting it to a vote without either the Republicans in Congress OR the American people being able to see the bill.

Criminals...they are all criminals!!!
It's great how they can decide to how to spend my money and not even let me know the details!!

They should be prosecuted and put in jail if they don't let us know what is in this thing.

I'm tired of being screwed over again and again!!!!

Makes me sick!

BTW to RRConservative - Strom Thurmond was a racist. I hope he's burning in hell right now.[edit on 12-2-2009 by David9176]

[edit on 12-2-2009 by David9176]

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 08:18 PM by disgustedbyhumanity

This is bothersome. How we can spend $700 billion without those being asked to vote are able to see what they are voting for. They need to wait until Monday or I say they get defeated.

We also need to go to a system where they line item vote every significant issue in every bill.

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 08:28 PM by skeptic1

The Dems are probably operating under the assumption that no Republicans are going vote for the bill. If they aren't going to vote for it, why provide it to them and let them see it.

The 3 RINOs in the Senate have probably got it, because they are going to vote for it. But, in the Dems' minds, the rest don't need to see it.

As for us, the public, they don't give a flying rat's furry hind-quarters about what we know or think. They've made that perfectly clear.

Anyone who thinks this bill is on the up and up and thinks the Dems have the best interest of us and our country at heart after this is delusional.

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 09:33 PM by Johnmike

reply to post by Vitchilo

Great Ad Hominem! Keep up the good work.

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 09:43 PM by ProfEmeritus

reply to post by redhatty

It seems obvious to me why they aren't giving the American public proper time to read this bill. If we got the time to review this bill, the outcry would be so huge, that they'd hear it in Washington from every state in the Union.
This government has become a dictatorship, not a dictatorship of 1, but of the crooks in Congress would do what they want, when they want, and have nothing but contempt for the American taxpayer.
Pelosi and Reid are TRUE CRIMINALS who should be tried for TREASON. They have broken the trust of the American people, and they spit on the constitution with every act that they commit.
I think it's time to RECALL these criminals!

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 09:53 PM by redhatty

reply to post by ProfEmeritus

I agree, many of the traitors in Congress should be recalled, I have only 1 in my state that needs to go, she keeps voting for this crap, while everyone else votes no, well there was one guy who voted yes, but he's been indicted

Unfortunately, these traitors keep getting re-elected.

Last November, NO ONE who voted for the EESA (Bailout Bill) should have been re-elected, but for the most part, they were.

By the time Americans wake up and educate themselves on what is happening, the only option left is going to be revolution and/or Civil war. It's sad but it's true

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 10:28 PM by lernmore

I'm not surprised at all.
Those liberal retards think they just inherited the power to spit on us as they please. Oh wait, they did.

All they needed was a couple traitors to jump ship from the conservative cookie stealer club, and it's business as usual, claiming bipartisanship, and treating the American people like the maggots they think we are.

They're like a bunch of preschoolers fighting over our Grahm Crackers.
Someday people are going to get tired of settling for the crumbs, take the box away, and give them all a time-out.

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 10:31 PM by amatrine

Today they took out the part where home buyers get the 15,000 credit.

Something that may actually help people is taken out, but pork remains in there.

Imagine that.

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 11:06 PM by sadisticwoman

Surprise! Repubs still bitter: Intend on posting bitter threads for next 4 years.

I for one welcome Socialism or Communism or any other ism that isn't capitalism, and I also welcome my NWO overlords. Bring on the change we need!

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 11:11 PM by ProfEmeritus

Pelosi is PUBLIC ENEMY # 1 of the American people. Just to give you an idea of how crooked she is, read this:
washingtontimes.com...

EXCLUSIVE: Pelosi paid husband with PAC funds $99,000 for rent, utilities, accounting fees Jennifer Haberkorn (Contact) Wednesday, October 1, 2008

EXCLUSIVE: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has directed nearly $100,000 from her political action committee to her husband's real estate and investment firm over the past decade, a practice of paying a spouse with political donations that she supported banning last year. Financial Leasing Services Inc. (FLS), owned by Paul F. Pelosi, has received $99,000 in rent, utilities and accounting fees from the speaker's "PAC to the Future" over the PAC's nine-year history. The payments have quadrupled since Mr. Pelosi took over as treasurer of his wife's committee in 2007, Federal Election Commission records show. FLS is on track to take in $48,000 in payments this year alone - eight times as much as it received annually from 2000 to 2005, when the committee was run by another treasurer. Lawmakers' frequent use of campaign donations to pay relatives emerged as an issue in the 2006 election campaigns, when the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal gave Democrats fodder to criticize Republicans such as former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas and Rep. John T. Doolittle of California for putting their wives on their campaign and PAC payrolls for fundraising work.

This is the crook that rammed the bill through the House, and rammed to back-room changes through in the reconciliation conference for the "stimulus bill". I wonder how much MORE money her HUSBAND is getting from THIS bill?

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 11:15 PM by skeptic1

reply to post by sadisticwoman

It isn't bitterness. It is outrage and anger.

And, if you and others want that kind of "change", then move. Some of us want to preserve our country, our ideals, and the principles this country was founded on.

reply posted on 12-2-2009 @ 11:18 PM by sadisticwoman

reply to post by skeptic1

Why should I move? Why don't you?

Your argument and fear of opposing views is pretty LAME. Go back to the 2000-2008.

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