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Originally posted by WeAreAWAKE
Come on folks, it is truly that simple. Phelps (or whatever his name is) got caught smoking pot. Big deal??? Yes...it is cause he broke the law. It doesn't matter WHAT the act is (except for the degree of punishment), break the law...get punished.
*slaps self in face really, really hard* You have got be kidding me, and I thought we were lenient...what is our Country coming to, was this judge just really high? You turn 18, and BOOM, you take a piss on the side of the road, get caught, and you hope to God you don't get that judge! I'm surprised it even went to court, shouldn't it just be like a little fine? I guarantee I could go and write "suck my balls" on a cafe wall, in s**t, and not get anything like that, what a poor girl.JEEZES
Originally posted by Kryties
reply to post by WeAreAWAKE
This happened in Australia mate
Originally posted by WeAreAWAKE
I was referring to Phelps with the USA comment...but...it doesn't really matter...does it?
Phelps is loosing sponsors and (as I understand it) the local police want to charge him IF they can prove it WAS pot. Harder than one may think since it was just a picture.
However...we make laws and hope and expect justice to be blind to who the person is, what color skin they have, etc. A black and white system...if you did it...it is time to pay. Why? Because if this system is maintained and the rules enforced, people avoid committing the crime in the first place.
In the US...gray has been added to the black and white. So now, the potential law breakers have to think..."I MAY get caught, and IF caught, MAY get in real trouble, so I MAY get away with it." If the liberal judges and wishy-washy, bleeding heart people (including judges) in this (and every) country would follow the law...black and white...some portion of this would change to "If I do this, I WILL get caught, and WHEN I get caught I WILL go to jail"...there would be a lot less crime, high-speed chases to avoid police, drive-by shootings, and the other crimes where a "decision" leads to the choice.
You will never get rid of the hate, rape, reaction murder etc...that spur of the moment thing. But lets let the law deter so we don't have to continue this path of "IF" forver.
TOUGHER laws for graffiti offences will outlaw the carrying of marker pens and etching implements in New South Wales in some instances, the State Government says.
The laws, which come into effect today, follow last month's Government announcement that graffiti crime was escalating and costing NSW more than $100 million a year.
The package of laws will help tackle the proliferation of graffiti, NSW Attorney General John Hatzistergos said.
"The community has had enough of having to repair damage left behind by this senseless crime,'' Mr Hatzistergos said.
The legislation makes it illegal to possess implements with the intention of using them to damage or deface premises or property, a law previously applicable only to spray paint cans.
Fair Trading representatives and police officers will also be able to issue on-the-spot fines to retailers who fail to properly secure spray paint cans.
Damaging or defacing property carries a fine of $2200 or six months jail, while possessing an instrument suspected of being used to graffiti property attracts a fine of $1100 or three months jail.
Originally posted by tezzajw
Check out this knee-jerk reaction!!!
TOUGHER laws for graffiti offences will outlaw the carrying of marker pens and etching implements in New South Wales in some instances, the State Government says.
The laws, which come into effect today, follow last month's Government announcement that graffiti crime was escalating and costing NSW more than $100 million a year.
The package of laws will help tackle the proliferation of graffiti, NSW Attorney General John Hatzistergos said.
"The community has had enough of having to repair damage left behind by this senseless crime,'' Mr Hatzistergos said.
The legislation makes it illegal to possess implements with the intention of using them to damage or deface premises or property, a law previously applicable only to spray paint cans.
Fair Trading representatives and police officers will also be able to issue on-the-spot fines to retailers who fail to properly secure spray paint cans.
Damaging or defacing property carries a fine of $2200 or six months jail, while possessing an instrument suspected of being used to graffiti property attracts a fine of $1100 or three months jail.
That's right, people of the free world - carrying a texta in your pocket can see you jailed for three months if they think that you're going to use it to write a tag.
3 Definitions
(1) In this Act:
graffiti implement means any of the following:
(a) spray paint,
(b) a marker pen,
(c) any implement designed or modified to produce a mark that is not
readily removable by wiping or by use of water or detergent.
The actual law and not a two paragraph bastardisation by the MSM and Tezza
Possession of graffiti implement
(1) A person must not have any graffiti implement in the person’s
possession with the intention that it be used to damage or deface
premises or other property.
Maximum penalty: 10 penalty units or imprisonment for 3 months.
(2) A court that convicts a person of an offence under this section must not
sentence the person to imprisonment unless the person has previously
been convicted of an offence under this section or section 4 (or under
the corresponding provisions of the Summary Offences Act 1988 as in
force before their repeal by this Act) on so many occasions that the court
is satisfied that the person is a serious and persistent offender and is
likely to commit such an offence again.
Register of graffiti removal work
(1) A local council must keep a register of graffiti removal work carried out
in accordance with this Part.
(2) The register is to specify in respect of each incidence of graffiti removal
work carried out:
(a) the owner or occupier of the premises on which the graffiti was
situated, and
(b) the nature of the work carried out, and
(c) the actual cost, or an estimate of the cost at current market rates,
of carrying out the work.
What a great day to strip away more rights!!!
(3)(3) The local council concerned is to bear the cost of graffiti removal work
referred to in subsection (1).
(5)A local council must pay compensation for any damage caused by the
council in this section.
15 Alternative action to imposing penalty for graffiti offences under
sections 4 and 5
A court may, instead of imposing a fine on a person or sentencing the
person to imprisonment for an offence under section 4 (Damaging or
defacing property by means of graffiti implement) or 5 (Possession of
graffiti implement):
(a) make an order under section 8 (1) of the Crimes (Sentencing
Procedure) Act 1999 directing the person to perform community
service work, being an order containing a recommendation of the
kind referred to in section 91 of that Act, or
(b) make an order under section 5 of the Children (Community
Service Orders) Act 1987 requiring the person to perform
community service work, being an order containing a
recommendation of the kind referred to in section 5 (1A) of that
Act,
as the case requires.
Originally posted by alyosha1981What do you mean "screwing up the rest of your life" haven't you ever heard of juvienille record expongement? sorry
but if a kid has a DOP on their recor and they can't find a job later on in life then there's deffinatly more issues going on then just the record.