Originally posted by tezzajw
Check out this knee-jerk reaction!!!
Don't need too, i knew about this ages ago. I thought I would highlight the none knee jerk bits.
Graffiti laws ban marker pens
TOUGHER laws for graffiti offences will outlaw the carrying of marker pens and etching implements in New South Wales in some instances, the
State Government says.
The laws, which come into effect today, follow last month's Government announcement that graffiti crime was escalating and costing NSW more than
$100 million a year.
The package of laws will help tackle the proliferation of graffiti, NSW Attorney General John Hatzistergos said.
"The community has had enough of having to repair damage left behind by this senseless crime,'' Mr Hatzistergos said.
The legislation makes it illegal to possess implements with the intention of using them to damage or deface premises or property, a law previously
applicable only to spray paint cans.
Fair Trading representatives and police officers will also be able to issue on-the-spot fines to retailers who fail to properly secure spray paint
Damaging or defacing property carries a fine of $2200 or six months jail, while possessing an instrument suspected of being used to graffiti
property attracts a fine of $1100 or three months jail.
That's right, people of the free world - carrying a texta in your pocket can see you jailed for three months if they think that you're
going to use it to write a tag.
Not true. Here is the bill. How about you read the actual laws instead of being a spoonfed media reactionary.
(1) In this Act:
graffiti implement means any of the following:
(a) spray paint,
(b) a marker pen,
(c) any implement designed or modified to produce a mark that is not
readily removable by wiping or by use of water or detergent.
See the last one. This means if you carry a marker that is easily removed, you have no problems. This means that law abiding citizens need only carry
this kind. This also means that graffiti artist(who want to have their tag remain permanent will easily be exposed as the a$$holes they truely are. I
can see why your empathy for these individuals is present.)
And the penalalty under this act for those who actually read the laws and not what the MSM tells us.
The actual law and not a two paragraph bastardisation by the MSM and Tezza
Possession of graffiti implement
(1) A person must not have any graffiti implement in the person’s
possession with the intention that it be used to damage or deface
premises or other property.
Maximum penalty: 10 penalty units or imprisonment for 3 months.
(2) A court that convicts a person of an offence under this section must not
sentence the person to imprisonment unless the person has previously
been convicted of an offence under this section or section 4 (or under
the corresponding provisions of the Summary Offences Act 1988 as in
force before their repeal by this Act) on so many occasions that the court
is satisfied that the person is a serious and persistent offender and is
likely to commit such an offence again.
Ohhh, I wonder if your girlfriend was a repeat offender under the old act of 1988, this act was repealed by the new act and that allowed offenders off
with warnings up tp three times before convicting them? hmmm. I wonder if her tag was actually on the Sydney City Council database? Whats that Tezza,
you didn't know the contracters that are hired to clean of graffiti actually record all incidences on digital cameras and save them in the event of a
conviction for tagging, I wonder if the prosecution table some of that, and warnings in the past that she may have recieved. Hmmmm.
Register of graffiti removal work
(1) A local council must keep a register of graffiti removal work carried out
in accordance with this Part.
(2) The register is to specify in respect of each incidence of graffiti removal
work carried out:
(a) the owner or occupier of the premises on which the graffiti was
(b) the nature of the work carried out, and
(c) the actual cost, or an estimate of the cost at current market rates,
of carrying out the work.
What a great day to strip away more rights!!!
I don't here you screaming about the fact that councils have to, by law, waste more dollars, time and resources by having to create a system of
recording, costing and estimating just to cater for graffiti.
I don't hear you screaming about the fact that local council also have to remove graffiti from a private property if it is visible from a public
place, and that those councils will incur the cost and are also liable for any damages of removing that graffiti, under this new act, all local
residence now have lost their rights. Their rights to have resources allocated in a more meaningful way due to the way prolific graffit taggers and
vandals behave. Where is your outrage now. Where is your outrage at our loss. Thats right, you'd rather be seen as ATS cool and scream at the
"man", then help people in the real world.
(3)(3) The local council concerned is to bear the cost of graffiti removal work
referred to in subsection (1).
(5)A local council must pay compensation for any damage caused by the
council in this section.
No reference whatsoever to the vandal incurring any costs, how about that for rights.
Yes, defacers of public property, taggers of the world, I can just see the civil libertarian rushing to defend you. Ohhh the silence.
Tezza, here is a link where you can make submissions to the Government relating to all gross miscarriage of justice. www.parliament.nsw.gov.au...
No knee-jerk. Years and months in the making.
The only knees i see jerking(amonst other things I am sure) is you. As per usual.
And at the end of the day, this will be the norm. For all you think tankers out there that want it judged from an individuals perspective......here
15 Alternative action to imposing penalty for graffiti offences under
sections 4 and 5
A court may, instead of imposing a fine on a person or sentencing the
person to imprisonment for an offence under section 4 (Damaging or
defacing property by means of graffiti implement) or 5 (Possession of
(a) make an order under section 8 (1) of the Crimes (Sentencing
Procedure) Act 1999 directing the person to perform community
service work, being an order containing a recommendation of the
kind referred to in section 91 of that Act, or
(b) make an order under section 5 of the Children (Community
Service Orders) Act 1987 requiring the person to perform
community service work, being an order containing a
recommendation of the kind referred to in section 5 (1A) of that
as the case requires.
No terra here, just over the top trolling.
I mean, just look at the signature. OP.
This article is from today, I linked this bill over two weeks ago. How slow are you.
Here is where I linked it as Graffiti-NSW law link and the bill is in the first paragraph as a linked
PDFpost by atlasastro
Man, and you complain about the PTB, only to wait for the MSM(of all people) to inform you of what is actually happening. Unbelievable. Deny