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Originally posted by heyo
i don't think there's any hope for you.
People use the get over it line for the simple pleasure of cutting someone down.
You think folks are getting tired of the tin-foil hat guys?
I thought it was funny how you proclaimed the OP was "on the opposite line", when i can extract the direct quote," I'm not a republican", from it.
You think we'd deny ron being a puppet because we agree with his policies? You obviously know nothing of his voting hisotry
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Originally posted by southern_Guardian
Folks are getting pritty sick an tired of the tin foil conspiracy that "all politicians are this and that accept myyy candidate" or that "Obama is part of the NWO" or what not.
Originally posted by southern_Guardian
labelling folks with different values and beliefs as "sheeple" or "messiah followers"?
Originally posted by southern_Guardian
this attitude coming from you fellas is obviously the result of election bitterness,
Originally posted by TheRandom1
reply to post by anonymouse876
If you look at all this from an "alien" viewpoint, a viewpoint of someone who doesn't care about who's team is playing, the players and the game it's self, you will see that it's all crap, all of this is just as I have said before over and over again, something to get us to fight amongst ourselves, to "devide and conquer".
-Lahara
Originally posted by spacedoubt
reply to post by southern_Guardian
You make good points, it could all be construed as collectivism.
MY guy, your guy, etc.
However, you might also notice that the only candidate from the past race that is still avidly supported here, and in many other places, is Ron Paul.
He seems to have started a fire in a lot of people, just by practicing what he preaches. And it's not a "mania", not a bright flame that burns out quickly.
It's more a smoldering flame, slowly spreading as people see that the nasty things he predicted, slowly come to fruition.
So, I'll take a candidate that doesn't want give the Government more power, and that has a grasp of the constitution. That goes for local, state, national candidates.
Paul's organization, Campaign For Liberty, is helping everyone identify, and throw support towards these types of candidates. It's not all about him anymore.
Originally posted by TheRandom1
People literally worship Obama, like he is a savior or Messiah,
Originally posted by TheRandom1
I'm someone who is'nt rooting for a side,
Originally posted by spacedoubt
However, you might also notice that the only candidate from the past race that is still avidly supported here, and in many other places, is Ron Paul.
He seems to have started a fire in a lot of people, just by practicing what he preaches. And it's not a "mania", not a bright flame that burns out quickly.
It's more a smoldering flame, slowly spreading as people see that the nasty things he predicted, slowly come to fruition.
Originally posted by heyo
i don't think there's any hope for you. People use the get over it line for the simple pleasure of cutting someone down.
(same smartassness, just dressed up differently)
Originally posted by Realtruth
The level of immature adult adolescence is astounding these days.
I guess if that is their level of consciousness so be it.
Originally posted by ClintK
Wait a minute. When Bush took the 2000 election, that was exactly what we heard over and over and over again. And the people complaining back then even had a real case: Bush had lost the popular vote by almost a half-million. And yet Bush supporters made a major point of calling those people "whiners." I mean a very big point, because that crowd really likes to hang labels on people. In fact, they kept bringing it up even when most of the nation had accepted it becuase it was an opportunity to call liberals, democrats and anyone who didn't think like them a name. They like that.
In fact, they were talking like Bush had won by a landslide and anyone who cast a pall on the election was a silly little fool who couldn't accept the clear will of the people.
Now, I'm not one of those people saying "get over it," but I certainly feel no sympathy for anyone complaining about Obama, who won the popular vote by 7 percent, if they said in 2000 that didn't like the results were "whiners." Of course, that's a move-the-goalpost crowd, so it doesn't surprise me.
I would say the same thing about people who were bothered in 2000 by conservatives saying "get over it," but are now saying "get over it" themselves.
[edit on 30-1-2009 by ClintK]
Originally posted by Frith
I'm sorry but I'm not going to alter my use of "You lost. Get over it." even though I don't think I've used it yet. I had to hear it for the last eight years. And now suddenly when the opposition wins we need to stop? Not going to happen here.
Alleged reasons of NWO, divide and conquer, or whatever else is claimed aren't going to work with me.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I beg to differ. You are on the conspiracy side. The one that says "They're all scumbags and puppets - we can't trust anyone in government". That's a "side", too. And you are being just as critical of those on "the other side" from you as the 2-party people are of each other. You are just the same.
Uh... Obama is also supported here.
And Obama support is much the same. Maybe not to his critics, but there is a huge group of people in this country who are not manic about him but see, understand and agree with his vision for the future. There are extremists in every "camp". There are conspiracy and Ron Paul extremists, too. .
Originally posted by Aermacchi
In fact if you look at the old ATS posts, I really don't see all that much about Bush winners saying get over it.
Originally posted by Aermacchi
You talk as if you have a virtuous reason for your cocky attitude.
Originally posted by Aermacchi
Well BH I have to agree with you and on this rare occasion I do
Originally posted by Aermacchi
This was about anger pure and simple, and it was all done without the benefit of intellect.
Originally posted by Frith
I did not vote for Obama, but I will support other liberals and defend their support of Obama considering what I had to put up with hearing for the last eight years
I didn't know anything about Obama? Let me tell you that I listen to AM radio daily and I heard as much as anyone else could about the man. Everything from allegations that he was a terrorist for knowing Bill Ayers, that he was a traitor, that he isn't a legal citizen of the USA, or that he's a secret muslim.
I had to listen to the audiences of Sarah Palin and John McCain rallies calling for the death of Obama and/or their regurgitation of the rest of the mud slung at Obama that I had never before heard in my life slung at a presidential candidate.
But to say I know nothing of the man is wrong. Very wrong. I probably know more about the man than John McCain. McCain being a man who stated himself he supported most of Bush's policies that I abhorred. So I had little option in this election.
I did not vote for Obama specifically for his pro-war rhetoric regarding Pakistan. But I will come to the defense of liberals who say "You lost. Get over it." precisely because I had to put up with it for eight years and because John McCain would have clearly been as bad as Bush had he gotten into office. Obama may not be my candidate of choice, but he's the best we got.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
You didn't look very well.
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I could go on...
Originally posted by ClintK
That's what you want to believe, so go ahead and believe it. If you couldn't see the profound differences between the McCain and Obama platforms, then you didn't know where they stood on the issues. On taxes and foreign policy, they were about as different as you could get.
People want to say the Republican and Democratic candidates are two sides of the same coin either because:
1. They wanted Ron Paul or
2. They're too intellectually lazy to do the research or
3. Neither side is particularly eager to challenge the corporate subculture. But that doesn't make them "the same" by a long shot.
And a combination of the above. But hey, you've managed to insult someone who thinks differently than you, so I guess that makes you right. You can dismiss the rest of us as clueless children and silly fools.