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Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

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posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman


www.breitbart.com

Iran's government spokesman on Tuesday branded the Holocaust a "big lie" created to place the Islamic republic's arch-foe Israel in the Middle East, the state IRNA news agency reported.
"The Holocaust is a concept coming from a big lie in order to settle a rootless regime in the heart of the Islamic world," Gholam Hossein Elham told a conference on Gaza in central Iran's religious city of Qom.

It was not the first time an Iranian official has questioned the massacre of Jews by Nazis in WWII
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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I've actually read members on these forums in the masses claiming support and adoration for Iran, Iran's president, Iran's government. Do you realise who you are praising? You are praising a government so corrupt, they actually are justifying themselves for hating the Jews by claiming the holocaust never happened. These are nazi-esque people through and through, and your alignment with them is your way of saying how anti-zionist you are, well you're also making yourself look pro-nazi.

www.breitbart.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


[edit on 28-1-2009 by Razimus]



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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israelis and americans talk about nuking iran , that is disgusting ,

Iran is not calling for genocide in USA , while USA talks about nuking Iran , frankly murdering more people .../

what is a bigger crime ? murdering hundreds of thousands like USA, or spewing rthetoric like iran

the former is a bigger crime


[edit on 28-1-2009 by sadchild01]



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 11:31 AM
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Looks like the Iranians are sending their on Golem at Israel. Considering Israel has been booking for the destruction of Iran and making threats for years, I will write this of as war talk from a potential victim of the zionist regime.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 12:22 PM
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WHO wants to nuke Iran??



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Razimus
These are nazi-esque people through and through, and your alignment with them is your way of saying how anti-zionist you are, well you're also making yourself look pro-nazi.

[edit on 28-1-2009 by Razimus]


Nationalist socialist-esque people? Pro nationalist-socialist?


You do know that the the Nazi's are long gone, they have been replaced by the USA and Israel as the global aggressors. Please tell me that this has come into your head at least once.

I see what you are saying but once again you are just another big massive generalizer who is only seeing in black and white.

So what you are saying really is that if I agree with anything.. ANYTHING that Iran has to say about Israel (Im not talking about the Jewish faith here)... then Im a big nazi.

Oh right..


But its okay for Israel to say whatever they want about anyone else and point their nukes at our cities.

[edit on 28/1/09 by Dermo]



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 12:31 PM
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Those wacky iranians! what will they think of next? maybe something along the lines of "we won the vietnam war"! LOL!

MessOnTheFED!



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 01:29 PM
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Although I don't want to be flamebait, I can't help but notice some zionistic/masonic tactics in your writings, razimus.

Iran's president is among the very few presidents who has the balls to say things the way they are and act accordingly. And many people don't like that. They want Iran assimilated. He has no interest in nuking Israel, I'll tell you that.

Muslims in the M.E. don't sit around all day thinking "how am I gonna kill more Jews / Christians?". They go about their daily lives like we all do... UNLESS PROVOKED. I've met many muslims and I got this impression from all of them. And the US/Israel have provoked them more than plenty.

But jews / israelis / zionists (ok, one group or the other, pick your favourite - I have mine) have been infiltrating our governments, have been "tweaking" the financial system(s) to their plans and have been putting forward a specific agenda. I think that much is clear to most ATSers.

Is Israel with its heavy-handed tactics better? Are they better when they have direct control of the US government, which they are using to their sole advantage? Many people are aware of Israels heavy handed-ness and the Jews' sneaky tactics behind their ever-present pleasantries, and we don't quite appreciate it.

Just some thoughts...



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 02:09 PM
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I'm with you Raz, there is a HUGE anti-Isreal sentiment here on ATS. So much that the haters will side with a shady country like Iran! Give me a break, Ahmadinejad is a jackass and if I ever see him i'm gonna puch him in the face and throw a shoe at him.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:15 PM
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The holocaust is a big lie? How can anyone agree with such rubbish?!

Saying this crap in germany will actually land you in jail for a few years and I support their decision. We need to stop hate especially when it has no basis!

Ahmenijhad keeps digging his country into a bigger hole. I can see when one day israel or america will take exception to his comments and do something about it.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:23 PM
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I and none of you were there so you cant say with 100% certainty anyway ..

Besides who cares .. Once the rapee becomes the RAPIST. I have no sympathy for them .



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:36 PM
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I and none of you were there so you cant say with 100% certainty anyway ..


Following that line of thinking you might as well state that an atomic bomb was never detonated over Hiroshima and Nagasaki. None of us were there so I suppose we can't be sure that ever happened, can we.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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When I was younger, I met people who were in the concentration camps and still had the tattoos to prove it.

So, they were there and that was proof enough for me.

Find a survivor of the holocaust and talk to them.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:52 PM
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Strange how it isn't the Germans claiming that, isn't it?



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 04:08 PM
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Any unbiased person with at least a high school education knows that the holocaust did in fact happen. The only thing that remains disputed is the exact number of deaths from each ethnic group.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by Razimus
I've actually read members on these forums in the masses claiming support and adoration for Iran, Iran's president, Iran's government. Do you realise who you are praising? You are praising a government so corrupt, they actually are justifying themselves for hating the Jews by claiming the holocaust never happened. These are nazi-esque people through and through, and your alignment with them is your way of saying how anti-zionist you are, well you're also making yourself look pro-nazi.

www.breitbart.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


[edit on 28-1-2009 by Razimus]



I find it interesting that you call these "people" Nazi-esque...do some historical research and do not follow the crap taught to you at schools.

Read up on Operation Paperclip....when the US brought over from Germany a whole lot of Nazi scientists and benefitted by using their knowledge for their military and space programs.....

NASA would not be what it is today without the knowledge of Werner Von Braun.

Fully knowing that it was illegal......Therefore the US are Nazi collaborators.

What is so "anti-Zionist" about that?

It is the truth.

Truth hurst many people these days because they dont want their "fabricated" perseption of the world shattered by it.

Go watch the documentary "The War on Democracy", it will help explain to you how truly Facist the US "Empire" truly is.

The US has murdered hundreds of thousands of people by proxy, by causing coups and installing puppet leaders/dictators in countries they didnt like, that have gone on to brutalise their populations.

The US has much blood on its hands, preaching democracy whilst sponsoring terrorism behind closed doors makes the US the worlds Number 1 threat to peace and prosperity.

You tell me who is the rogue nation who is the Facist Regime now?



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 04:18 PM
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"The Holocaust is a concept coming from a big lie in order to settle a rootless regime in the heart of the Islamic world,"


I thought the heart of the Islamic world was Mecca?

I'm not sure I totally buy this report yet, the source AFP? are there any other credible sources?

This could be more generated propaganda or intentionally incorrect translation designed to bolster support for military actions on Iran.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
Strange how it isn't the Germans claiming that, isn't it?

And that my friends is how you expose a farce for what it is. Well said.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 04:39 PM
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I cannot find any major coverage on this quote other than the one article which was published by the European Jewish Press and is written by AFP which is a French news agency run by the French government.


Remember that mistranslated quote that went something like "Israel will be wiped off the face of the planet" and it really was "Israel will disappear from the pages of time." subtle difference but it becomes less of a menacing threat.

I wonder what he really said.......



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
Strange how it isn't the Germans claiming that, isn't it?


In Germany, it is illegal to speak ill of the dead. So saying anything about the holocaust means you are speaking ill of some dead.

Couple that with the complete embarrassment of the incident in the first place.



Also, can someone please actually translate the exact phrase that was used for this article because a lot can be lost in translation.. especially with bias journalism.

Its just that Ahmadinejad can be quoted as asking "why the Holocaust isn't open to all kinds of research" Link

NOT denying that it happened.



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