It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
but why these people have a double standard.
Originally posted by bigvig316
Speaking for those who want to keep their guns and feel that the "Radical" "Fundamentalist" "Terrorist" Arab shouldn't be allowed to have their guns. The rest of them can have what ever gun they want to protect life home and property. But if they are living in a terrorist camp, planning to take out Americans, yeah, they shouldn't have guns.
[edit on 1/14/2009 by bigvig316]
Originally posted by magicmushroom
What I am trying to find out is that by reading comments from certain Americans here on ATS being proud of their own identity, country and rights who condem others for doing the same.
For example if an American states that they dont agree with the imigration of say Mexicans into the US and feels that people should stand up to this why do they then say some thing different when it relates to others. Such as the indigenous peoples of the ME being shunted around and persecuted.
Its not about Brits or anyone else becuse in the main when it comes to talking about guns, rights etc. it is usally American members who are the most voiciferous. There is nothing wrong in that and we cannot use the Brits as such as a model as we don't have a constitutaion and we don't have the right to bear ams.
But its more of a case of that is a person feels very strongly about such matters why do those views change when its about some one else. Thats what I'm trying to find out as normally people would identify wih the plight and struggle of others if they are patriotic themselves and have such strong feelings about freedom liberty and justice. It would be like a Frenchman saying those who stand up for themselves are wrong, that just does not happen does it because the French stand up for themselves and others.
If one holds such strong and important values why do they change when applied to different people? Again I am ony referring to the comments I have read here on ATS which I know is not representative of the American people but then I was not asking that but why these people have a double standard.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
The Palestinians have so little land because it is being taken from them for the past 6 decades so they have no peace. Israel wants more land and those who own it fight for the right to keep it so Israel will not have peace.
No the reality is, is that Americans are obsessed with guns and frequently talk of their right to defend themselves their freedom and liberty. Why do they then deny others those same rights. Its a simple question with a simple answer.
If Americans and others are entitled to their rights so is everyone else thats the simple answer. But there are those who say do as I say not as I do. The double standard.
Originally posted by David9176
If people could just learn to accept the differences they have with others and their beliefs...we would all be so much better off.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
No the reality is, is that Americans are obsessed with guns and frequently talk of their right to defend themselves their freedom and liberty. Why do they then deny others those same rights. Its a simple question with a simple answer.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
The Palestinians have so little land because it is being taken from them for the past 6 decades so they have no peace. Israel wants more land and those who own it fight for the right to keep it so Israel will not have peace.
No the reality is, is that Americans are obsessed with guns and frequently talk of their right to defend themselves their freedom and liberty. Why do they then deny others those same rights. Its a simple question with a simple answer.
It is less about owning a gun, and more about not liking someone telling me what I can and can't do in my private life. You give politicians an inch, and they take your head off.
Originally posted by wayno
I think that MM's main point is that you, Americans, are always loudly defending yourselves against what your government might do to you,