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You obviously have no concept of TEMPTATION... or CORRUPTION... or do I dare say "Luciferian Rituals"... (I don't want you to understand that kind of stuff BTW...)

So let me go through your points.

1. The Illuminati are not bad? WOW... I'll go into detail later with witness testimony of how the Iluminati works (children are the key).... how do I say this? THEY PROGRAM PEOPLE!!!! But just keep in mind that I use the word Illuminati as a reference for TPTB


2. So someone has to be forced into something for it to be brainwashing??? If you gave a very poor black man 2 pounds of crack in 1985 and said "have fun and make money"... What was this? I didn't force it on him... He agreed. He needed the money and to drug too feed his addiction.

And again... It's not BRAINWASHING... it's PROGRAMING... What television 'programs' do you watch?

3. There is something behind your logic on this point that I wish not to discuss at this moment... but I see you have an idea of how to grasp power. You power through controlling the sheep.

4. Flight Club was example of about 500 movies that shows the sublimanol messages of TPTB.



I agree with looking in the mirror when something goes wrong.... But who claims too be the 'G'RAND Architect of this place?

I'm pointing out the temptation aspect... And that that's how evil lures people.


And my bottomline.

Even if they have good intentions (TPTB)... it's still a form of mind controll.... for the sheep.


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[edit on Thu Jan 8 2009 by Jbird]

TPTB ?


Pardon my ignorance

The Powers That Be

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[they are sending the message that YOU TOO can be in control of your life if you just stop BLAMING everything on a few individuals and take responsiblity. Look in the mirror when something goes wrong. ]

Tell that to the innocent Palestinian people, Hitler's victims of the Holocaust, and the people of Darfur, that it was their fault they were not in control of their lives when a bigger bully came by to wipe them off the face of the Earth.

They did not have the resources or what-have-you to fight the decision that influential 'few individuals' made that they must die. Where is the morality in this, I ask you?

It's like a bully grabbing your hand and punching you in the nose with your hand and saying: "Stop punching yourself... Stop punching yourself"

'"I can't stop, because you're making me punch my nose, you evil idiot"

Nobody has the right to victimize someone else who is weaker just because they are 'Enlightened in the ways of Lucifier '

This is not enlightenment at all, but a path to the dark side.

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I am a believer in NWO or whatever you want to name it but that does not mean that I think every single part of life is part of the NWO like some people tend to.

After reading the posts on this topic etc.

I am looking at the information including the videos etc and I cant help but think to myself. If you look at this for what it is, it is a warning plain and simple but not a threat.

It looks like someone is trying to help you see what is going on.

Use your perception not your gut reaction.

Even if it is programming etc, you can decode a program can you not?

I think that the way things are being taken these days are totally out of context on a lot of issues such as this and for that very reason if anything ever happens a lot of people are going to be kicking themselves for their actions.



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While i do abhor the hollywood monster just as much as any of you, i find it diffcult to believe this is all some NWO scheme. It's a money-making scheme. It's an addiction of sorts. Hollywood is more then just TV/Movies. It also encompasses music and modeling.

I don't think it's about warning people. It's about entertaining them to death. What better way to seize power (and make a ton of cash in the process)? The people are so diverted by days of our lives, britney spears, and reality TV, they don't even notice you are taking things from them. Furthermore you guys are falling into the trap of believing all the movies are the same. Good Will Hunting and Dawn Of The Dead are two very different things guys. Not all movies are made to be splatterporn fests or things of that nature. Not all music is made to be a bump and grind fest.

While we are at it let's discuss what the print media has done to the image of the human body over the years. Is that a conspiracy? How about ads? How about the bad music?

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its not all bad

video is currently the dominant outlet for art and entertainment

I think it is safe to assume that the application of Goebbels’ Propaganda Machine or some variation thereof also reaches into the frontiers of the music and movie industries. Were Star Wars, Star Trek, Stargate, Starman, and Starship Troopers lessons in some hidden reality? How many other movies reflect suspicious themes found through out the conspiracy world today?

Although it is safe to assume that only a small percentage of the movies made are agenda based "information injections" into the mass consciousness of the world at large, it is still alarming that these "injections" could be in the form of our most popular, celebrated, and influential movies which eventually become intertwined with pop-culture.

Who is "ultimately" sponsoring them? Unknown.

I clearly see a lot of manipulation in the media, but I think most people see through it. I watch TV with my daughter, and make sure I point out the inconsistencies. A good example would be that in almost every Disney movie about teenagers they ever make, the bad guy or girl is always the blonde. This was old when I was a kid.

I would say Fight Club is a movie that Hollywood did not endorse, but it had the right people backing it, and they knew it was a money maker, so it got made. That fight Club got made tells me that TPTB are a long ways from being fully in control. Mel Gibson sure threw a monkey wrench into their works. Gibson has been involved in a lot of movies that said some fairly bad things about some powerful groups, for instance, Air America and Lethal Weapon exposed the CIA's participation in drug smuggling.

I don't see some big Jewish conspiracy, but there are definately groups of elites that aim to promote an agenda. It isn't only within movies, the whole of media has lots of powerful groups working an agenda. Many books and novels that are given high exposure are heavy propaganda.

There also seems to be a very large number of people in the industry who carry a huge grudge from high school.

If you start this "board", you may get some anonymous posts from an insider.

The OP video on fight club. The "Sun Check"? That destruction of that sphere sculpture is obviously the same sphere that was in between the twin towers of 9-11. The destruction of the sphere is the 1st massive destruction that leads to the destruction of the two towers at the end with the building in the middle.

The director had ties and YES there is something going on but the original video was off on that "sun check" theory... way off.

I am impressed that you can see this because not many can. However they do not use just subliminal objects with sun/pyramid, all seeing eye, scarab/beatle etc but with technology. Flicker rate, and sound that changes vibrational frequencies in the surrounding enviroment.

Who is "they" you say? You really dont wanna know.

Thank you for this. Until next time, I'm off to the movies.

could bollywood be in on this too

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Ok, the idea is that the Illuminatywood are grooming me for a good mental romping session, through the use of film and media, yes?

Are you saying these NWO/Illuminati/Masons/ninja are subversively destroying my free will through "Maid in New York", "MST3K: The Movie", "A Girl's Guide to 21st Century Sex" and "Poker After Dark" ?

You're out of your gourd!

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They do the same thing with homosexuality. In all recent movies, homosexuality is ok.

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I see what you are saying but if this is their agenda then why does the black guy always die in movies?

Especially horror movie characters which are known in the 70's / 80's as a role model on how one should live.
Take Friday 13th for example, only the virgin girl who rejects alcohol and drugs survives whilst all her friends who were enjoying some rumpy pump and alcohol and drugs met their fate!

I agree that Hollywood is a centre for mass mind control and social conditioning but wait, I bet there is a movie about this somehere!

There is also the occasional flashing of "666"...in clocks, video recorders, kitchen devices, heart diagnose equipments, car plates, prices...movies are full of that.

The message is that blacks are stupid and get what they deserve. It's also conditioning in getting used to see black people dying.

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!? Do any of you know anything about this industry? Do any of you work in the movie industry?

It's a business...like any other business, what's the rule of business?

To make money!!! I write those movies all of you bitch about and do you want to know why myself and the others like me write those movies?

Because we know that the masses are interested in them. Because we know they will spend an hour or two of thier day watching them. Because we know that people will spend $8 of thier hard earned money to watch them.

It's that simple. There is NO conspiracies, no cover-ups, no government intrusions...and yes, there are many Jewish people who work in Hollywood...but, there are also a lot of Italians, and Irish and French, and English and Russians and Australians and Indians and every other ethnicity....

There are a ton of writers, like myself, who are regular visitors to this site and sites like this. Partly because we have an interest in the topics that are discussed on here, but also because we can get a guage of what other people are interested in and to what degree that interest is....

I am currently working on two movies, one which deals with the government and private security issues and another that deals with UFO's, alien races and the secret military space program and not ONCE, not one time have I ever been approached or contacted in anyway by a government official dealing with these topics....NOT ONE TIME....and these movies aren't exactly kind when it comes to putting the government in a rosy light.

This whole Hollywood/government conspiracy issue is retarded, I'm sorry to say. Spielberg is not a government agent nor is anyone else. We work in an industry to earn a living and make money....just like you do. You work in whatever industry you do to earn a living. It's that simple.