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Topic started on 4-1-2009 @ 09:54 PM by David Skylar
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Watching the CNN video of Space Shuttle Endeavour landing at Edwards AFB, I noticed something strange. Watch the embedded video, at around 2:19 to
2:23 a dark javelin shaped object flies behind the shuttle. The newscasters dont seem to notice and keep reporting. Opinions?
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:12 PM by easynow
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good find !
the object shows up around the 2:21 mark and it just darts across the view.
i don't know what it is...maybe one of those Rod sky critters ? or just a bird trying to get the heck out of the way ?
good shuttle approach video
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:16 PM by David Skylar
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Thanks.
I checked with personnel at the base and they told me that they do not test aircraft on Sunday, and would NEVER do so during a Space Shuttle landing.
As to your bird theory, it appears to be too long to be a bird and/or flying rods.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:19 PM by Mikey84
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Originally posted by David Skylar
I checked with personnel at the base and they told me that they do not test aircraft on Sunday, and would NEVER do so during a Space Shuttle landing.
As to your bird theory, it appears to be too long to be a bird and/or flying rods.
Good find!
I was going to say a plane, but it seems that’s not an option. I agree, it’s too long to be a bird.
No idea what it is, but definitely a good find.
Mikey
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:24 PM by Chadwickus
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How come at about 4:04 I can hear what sound like a jet flying over head then?
Or is that the shuttle making the noise?
This is what I think is what we see when the shuttle is on approach.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:26 PM by lunarminer
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My first impression of it was that it was an airliner passing above and behind the shuttle.
Don't know though. can't really tell much from the video. The res is pretty low.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:31 PM by Jay-in-AR
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My immediate thought when I saw that was commercial airliner. I would like to hear what the FAA says, though.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:34 PM by David Skylar
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To Chadwickus:
I highly doubt military personnel would lie to me about whether there was a jet in the air at the time of the landing. Also i've checked records and
no aircraft were launched or piloted at that time. However it is entirely possible that once the Endeavour landed a jet took off, although while it
was in the air that is INCREDIBLY unlikely.
To Lunarminer:
The video is a CNN video. And also commercial airliners are restricted over Edwards airspace. Also an airliner wouldn't be moving at that speed that
close to the ground.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:36 PM by David Skylar
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@ Jay-in-AR:
I've attempted to contact the FAA but have they have not responded.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:38 PM by Jay-in-AR
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So you checked with Edwards already and they say everything was grounded?
That IS a good find, in that case. Very good find. I wonder if it would be possible to find that clip in the CNN archives and view it in its original
format?... I'll have a look.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:39 PM by Phage
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A flock of small birds perhaps. There are several species which are listed as abundant and common around Edwards at this time of year.
www.npwrc.usgs.gov...
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:43 PM by David Skylar
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To Jay-in-AR:
Thank you.
Yes, the clip is in the CNN archives, here is the url:
www.cnn.com...
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:44 PM by Chadwickus
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reply to post by David Skylar
I just re-watched it, The sound isn't at the end its around the 4:04 mark, I've just edited my post to reflect that. I guess the shuttle could be
making the noise?
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:44 PM by easynow
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As to your bird theory, it appears to be too long to be a bird and/or flying rods.
well what do you think it is then ? it surely aint no airplane.
if the camera was zoomed on the shuttle that was far away and a bird flew past the camera it would appear as a streak. i could be wrong
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:47 PM by Jay-in-AR
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I can't get the video to work. Something about network connectivity. I'm sure it is probably on my end, but I have to get to sleep very soon and I
don't want to mess with it right now. I'll get to it later.
I suppose Phage's idea could be pretty close. I'll have to look at the clip in better resolution to form an opinion.
PS: I just accessed the youtube link instead. It looks better when you watch it from youtube. The bigger screensize is better.
I don't buy the flock of birds idea. Whatever that is looks to be quite large. Bigger than the shuttle itself and it looks to crisp and solid to be
birds.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:52 PM by David Skylar
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@ easynow:
Your bird theory could be possible, I am just stating that it is unlikely. Because as we know distance distorts perception of time. For example an
commercial airliner is going at speeds of 500 MPH but it seems much slower when it is higher up in the sky. The Space Shuttle is also moving at
incredibly high speeds, however the CNN camera is zoomed out to capture the entire shuttle in the shot. At this distance the Shuttle seems to be
moving slowly. Yet the object moves at incredible speeds, indicating high velocity that could not be obtained by a common bird.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:53 PM by SLAYER69
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I'll stick my neck out.
It looks like a bug all blurred and out of focus up close to the camera.
IMHO
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 11:01 PM by easynow
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i don't see to many choices , if it's not a bird like i described then it could possibly be a sky critter.
Alien spacecraft ? who knows
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 11:04 PM by Jay-in-AR
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It appears to pass behind the top portion of the tail section, but I could be wrong. I'm not sure how to cut it up into individual frames and see if
it actually does pass behind it, though. It would be easy to tell, though, considering the tail section is bright white.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 11:07 PM by Phage
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Originally posted by David Skylar
@ easynow:
Your bird theory could be possible, I am just stating that it is unlikely. Because as we know distance distorts perception of time. For example an
commercial airliner is going at speeds of 500 MPH but it seems much slower when it is higher up in the sky. The Space Shuttle is also moving at
incredibly high speeds, however the CNN camera is zoomed out to capture the entire shuttle in the shot. At this distance the Shuttle seems to be
moving slowly. Yet the object moves at incredible speeds, indicating high velocity that could not be obtained by a common bird.
The shuttle lands at about 215 mph.
The object (or objects) pass above the vertical stabilizer so we cannot tell if it is beyond or in front of the shuttle however, because it (they) are
out of focus it is reasonable to assume it (they) is somewhat closer to the camera than the shuttle. That being the case (out of focus) a group of
objects could appear to be a single object. A bird (or birds) close to the camera will move across the field of view very quickly.
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