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Evil and good are human concepts that describe two parts of the same whole.... and you forget that if "good" were to take over and nurture and care for every single being that has ever existed, nothing would ever die or be destroyed, and eventually that in itself would destroy the whole planet. That in itself would breed "evil".
reply to post by Hallberg Rassy
If truth stands on its own, without regard to the human condition, its a result of the Natural world and in Pure form. ( Universal truths, laws of the cosmos, etc) These truths do not rely on human interpretation and are not subject to our flaws. They exist with or without us and could care less what we think of them.
Gravity will exert itself, the speed of light is constant, elements will arrange themselves and the building blocks of life will find a way. These truths will always win in the end.
Originally posted by Wertdagf
Understanding is the foundation of forgivness, without understanding your forgiveness is fake and hallow, without reason.
People always say they forgive people... but then add somthing like because jesus said so.
but jesus didnt want you just to parrot what he says... because... well parrots would do it better.
reply to post by dunwichwitch
Tho0se truths, however self evident they may be, are not permanent, because nothing we sense is permanent. If there was only one truth which could never be denied, it is that whatever IT is, IT is always changing. Maybe not even that. Maybe the one truth can never be uttered by human tongues.
ON THE REALITY OF SELF-EVIDENT TRUTH
Consider the statement "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." In order to accurately decipher this statement one must entertain a proper understanding of the term self-evident. In order to realize a proper understanding of the term self-evident one must also recognize to whom the statement is evident.
The dictionary or textbook definition of self-evident is "evident in itself without proof or reasoning." This definition however is not tenable when subjected to critical examination. The truth that "all men are created equal" is deemed self-evident by the Declaration’s Signers, but can that term, self-evident, be defined as "evident in itself without proof or reasoning?" I think not. To hold a truth to be "evident in itself without proof or reasoning" is tantamount to saying that the truth is an unverified, unreasoned, axiomatic proposition. For the Signers to set forth the enumerated truths as unverified, unreasoned, axiomatic propositions would be the equivalent of evoking the truths as mere suppositions in the guise of reality. Had the Signers of the Declaration only supposed that "all men are created equal" they could not, in good conscious, have held it to be a truth. To the contrary, the Signers use of the term self-evident in the Declaration is an adjective expression of an attribute in support of the stated truths. The intent of the Signers is certain, the realities of Nature the Signers set forth as truths are held to be self-evident in that they are clear to the understanding of the Signers themselves. It is the Signers that attest to this reality. A reality they professed as evident to their individual conscious selves.
Furthermore, if self-evident truth is defined as truth that is "evident in itself without proof or reasoning," the truth does not proceed from the rational examination of the pertinent facts or concepts and therefore is not the product of an intellect’s reason. The truth of such concepts as Mankind’s equality and Endowed Rights can only be evident to a rational intellect and hence does not exist absent a rational intellect. Those truths which were asserted by the Signers as evident to the Signers (clear to their individual conscious selves) must have arisen from such facts and concepts that resided with their rational intellects. In professing the enumerated truths as self-evident, the Signers attested to the fact that the enumerated truths conformed to their conscious understanding of reality.
Therefore, in order to gain a viable understanding of the Signers’ intent for the term self-evident as utilized in the Declaration of Independence, a proper definition of self-evident must be employed. A literal interpretation of the compound word self-evident provides the most obvious clarification, i.e., "that which is evident to the individual conscious self." Viewed from this perspective, the perspective of an individual human being, truth which is deemed self-evident is deemed evident (clear) to the understanding of one’s self. The truths enumerated in the Declaration of Independence are self-evident not only because the Signers understood them to be self-evident but also because the natural intellectual process utilized by any individual member of the human race (one of Mankind’s many selves) clearly leads to the conclusion of their truth.
Based on the above elementary definition of self-evident, I beg to differ with the argument advanced by certain critics of the Declaration of Independence that, ". . . the truths they (the founders) held to be self-evident are scarcely self-evident . . . and we are starting with the presupposition that (the truths are self-evident)." In response to these criticisms consider the following.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."