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reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 07:22 PM by pluckynoonez
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All you need to know is this: the terrorists hate us for our freedoms. It is now more important than ever that we imprison and torture people who are "terrorists" to keep us safe.



reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 07:28 PM by Sonya610
Millionaire and rebel fighter from the Afghan war, Osama Bin Laden, got it in his head to overthrow the corrupt regimes running most of the middle east. He is deeply religious, and believes in the popular Muslim concept of an Islamic Utopia where all corrupt middle eastern governments are overthrown and run by righteous people for the benefit of all good Muslims.

He believed this was possible, his fighters were successful in defeating the Russians, however he knew he had to convince the masses that they had it in their power to overthrow the corrupt governments that were opressing them.

Since the United States has a long and not so pleasant history in that region, he realized that if he could provoke the U.S. into war, their presence could rile up the masses, and bring Jihad fighters in from various countries. Once he had an army raised he believed he could use that force to overthrow the Saudi government among many others in that region.

Osama and cohorts came up with a brilliant plan to hijack commercial U.S. Airlines and drive them into major U.S. landmarks. Initially they planned to hijack 10 such aircraft, however eventually taht was scaled down to four.

The plan was successful, they hijacked 4 planes. Two utterly decimated the twin towers and the world was filled with shock and awe as they watched the towers fall. Two others were aimed at the capitol (in case the first message was too subtle), one went down before reaching its destination and the other hit the Pentagon.

In short order the U.S. declared war on Afghanistan. A year or so later they declared war on Iraq, presumably because Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Weapons were never found.

Bin Laden never really expected to survive the initial incidents, he thought he would go down in history as a Martyr shortly after the attacks. Despite the supposed best efforts of U.S. intelligence, Bin Laden has never been found and is believed to be living in the mountains of Pakistan or Kashmir to this day. He occasionally turns out audio or video statements to confirm his corporal existence.


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reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 07:47 PM by king9072
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Please tell me this was a joke? If it wasn't, your likely the most brain-washed person on this entire forum :S


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reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 07:59 PM by Sonya610
Originally posted by guinnessford
hey and even if she is serious thats what id get off the tv!


Uhhhh...no. Not at all. The TV says the Muslim terrorists, Bin Laden and crew, HATE AMERICANS and if we don't fight them over there, they will come after us over here.

I am not saying that AT ALL. I am saying we were pawns in this game. We were cleverly manipulated and it was never about the U.S. We were just convenient shills that could be provoked into starting a war over there.

They literally slapped us in the face and DARED us to do something about it. Since then there has not been even ONE real terrorist attack in the U.S. If anything, those that claim it was a U.S. gov conspiracy need to explain the lack of attacks since then. Bush reached his height of popularity after people "banded together" in the face of the horrible terrorists. If the U.S. gov planned all this, they would be motivated to attack randomly when people get unhappy, or disagree with the war, or when the Bush admin wanted to distract the masses. Fear of "them" is Bush's greatest friend when it comes to public support.

My theory says the attacks served their purpose, it dragged us into a war, and since they (Bin Laden) don't really care one way or another what happens in the U.S. they have not felt the need to bother with us over here since then.

If the mainstream media has claimed that was the case I have missed it.



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reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 08:14 PM by king9072
Originally posted by Sonya610
Originally posted by guinnessford
hey and even if she is serious thats what id get off the tv!


Uhhhh...no. Not at all. The TV says the Muslim terrorists, Bin Laden and crew, HATE AMERICANS and if we don't fight them over there, they will come after us over here.

I am not saying that AT ALL. I am saying we were pawns in this game. We were cleverly manipulated and it was never about the U.S. We were just convenient shills that could be provoked into starting a war over there.

If the mainstream media has claimed that was the case I have missed it.

[edit on 18-12-2008 by Sonya610]



AHaha not brainwashed at all.


Millionaire and rebel fighter from the Afghan war, Osama Bin Laden, got it in his head to overthrow the corrupt regimes running most of the middle east. He is deeply religious, and believes in the popular Muslim concept of an Islamic Utopia where all corrupt middle eastern governments are overthrown and run by righteous people for the benefit of all good Muslims.

He believed this was possible, his fighters were successful in defeating the Russians, however he knew he had to convince the masses that they had it in their power to overthrow the corrupt governments that were opressing them.


You failed to mention that Bin Laden was trained by the CIA. Maybe thats how he defeated the Russians?

Or that weeks before 911 he was treated in a Dubai hospital, where he was later met by CIA agents. (While on the FBI most wanted list)
here.


Since the United States has a long and not so pleasant history in that region, he realized that if he could provoke the U.S. into war, their presence could rile up the masses, and bring Jihad fighters in from various countries. Once he had an army raised he believed he could use that force to overthrow the Saudi government among many others in that region.

Osama and cohorts came up with a brilliant plan to hijack commercial U.S. Airlines and drive them into major U.S. landmarks. Initially they planned to hijack 10 such aircraft, however eventually taht was scaled down to four.


Ya, that's a great plan, bring the worlds largest, most advanced military into the region TO FIGHT YOU, so that you can overthrow other governments. Of course, that's so logical!

On top of that brilliance, they then some how (on the same day) get Norad to stand down, Get Cheney to call off shoot down orders upon information that a hi-jacked airliner was heading for the pentagon, some how remove all arabic names from flight manifests of the high jacked planes, pull off the hi-jackings, and fly their planes with professional percision into 3 out of 4 intended targets.

Yup, of course. They were so brilliant.


The plan was successful, they hijacked 4 planes. Two utterly decimated the twin towers and the world was filled with shock and awe as they watched the towers fall. Two others were aimed at the capitol (in case the first message was too subtle), one went down before reaching its destination and the other hit the Pentagon.

In short order the U.S. declared war on Afghanistan. A year or so later they declared war on Iraq, presumably because Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Weapons were never found.


Very successful, the fires caused the first collapse of a steel structured building in history! Then the second, and then when their plan just COULD NOT get any BETTER, they shocked everyone, and using their mental jihad power, BROUGHT DOWN A 3rd 50 STORY BUILDING, at free fall speed, a complete implossion, causing the building to collapse into its foot print, in just 7 seconds.

So then, AMERICA WAS PISSED! Yah you better believe it, they were so upset that they invaded Afghanistan. BUT WAIT! The plans for the Afghanistan invasion were on Bush's desk days before 911. OOPS! Look at that, what are the odds they spend all that time formulating a plan to invade a country, then just a couple days later so-called extremists from that country, pull off the most amazing attack in history. Read more.


Bin Laden never really expected to survive the initial incidents, he thought he would go down in history as a Martyr shortly after the attacks. Despite the supposed best efforts of U.S. intelligence, Bin Laden has never been found and is believed to be living in the mountains of Pakistan or Kashmir to this day. He occasionally turns out audio or video statements to confirm his corporal existence.


BRAINWASHED IGNORANCE!
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