However, because those behind SETI/METI are not focusing exclusively on flying saucers, the fundamentalist believers idiotically attack
it.
I never once suggested that the Seti institute should focus on UFOs, yet they are the ones who have taken it upon themselves and have no problem in
playing big roles on some of the most influential broadcasts concerning UFOs like "ABC's Seeing is Believing" and the more recent Larry King live
UFO shows, not to forget what this thread is about too CNN/UFOs/SETI, they(not surprisingly) often give the closing statements regarding unidentified
flying objects and I need not remind you of their position on this. So why intervene in this matter all the time acting as skeptics if there is really
nothing to this subject?
Perhaps you could list your various accomplishments and achievements, to show us how you are qualified to make such a judgement about
someone
Oh I'm sorry, I hadn't realized that qualification was needed to form an opinion about someone or a specific organization. Perhaps you could list
your own qualifications for forming an opinion about me.
In so far as SETI detecting an alien signal, have they accomplished this? No, of course not.
I concur, of course not. Not even you have any hope in Seti, why do you even continue this debate? It's obvious that your motives aren't really to
defend them, rather an attempt to attack and discredit me, not to mention calling me a hypocrite, and a closed minded fundamentalist believer among
many other things and then say that I referred to you as these things. Since you love to quote and requote me(back to your real motives) why don't
you find the so called quotes where I called you these things. Or should I quote you?
But then again, the UFO believers have not managed to prove life-exists beyond the planet either
You brought this up more than once when you know my answer and humble admission to this. No, there isn't the type of proof your looking for. That's
if you're even looking.
First, that is a huge assumption to make. How do you know they will never detect or recieve a signal?
You by your own admission have said "No, of course not" so why do you continue to ask this question?
Second, perhaps you've never heard of Wow! Signal,
Oh yes I've heard of it in the context of UFOs being a "myth" on ABC's seeing is believing uttered by none other than Seti's own Carl Sagan. But
in the end, was there anything that merited a "Wow" from this signal?
However, I did have an interesting experience Friday night involving the Moon. On the way back from watching a movie, I saw what appeared to
be an unusual light in the sky. It looked like either a stationary spotlight (like the Bat-Signal), or some sort of aircraft sitting motionless in the
clouds. After a minute or so of watching, the clouds broke and revealed the Moon. It does happen, people make mistakes
Apparently, you do too. I can clearly see why you're taking this so personally, when I've done nothing but express my opinion.
She illustrated this with her own experience, showing that given the right circumstances even trained observers can misidentify things in the
sky.
In some cases yes, trained observes can misidentify things, but not always, not all the time. There are way too many cases for every one of them to be
labeled as a case of misidentification. Surely you can concede to that.
However, for some reason, you made Dr. Tarter the exception, attacking her for this mistake and declaring her incompetent
The reason being her influence on the minds of people who trust Seti. Why don't they just mind their own business and carry on with their project? ..
I'm sure you're gonna quote me on this one.
Of course it's based on evidence, he just won't tell us what evidence. We have to take his word for it, otherwise we are ignorant, uneducated
and closed-minded
LOL, Ok first of all SaviorComplex, as I said earlier, you are the one who made these statements. And again, since you seem to be struggling with
this, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. this is just my opinion. Is there something inherently wrong about expressing an opinion?
On to the evidence part, obviously ... short of handing you a piece of wreckage or a flying saucer or a body of a dead alien, you simply won't accept
anything I'd have to offer. When it comes to extraterrestrials and cases attributed to them by high ranking officials, I had referred you to one
classic example in the "cometa report". If you ARE sincerely interested in exploring this subject with a little more detail, I suggest you start
with that document. The full one is actually in French, but there is a small section of that report(translated to English) which is extremely
interesting.
But let's be honest with each other SaviorComplex, you aren't here to have a civil or intelligent discussion with me. You think you're here denying
ignorance. And no, I'm not suggesting that you're ignorant even if you are a bit of aloof. Your attempts to twist my words are pointless, but
that's not the point is it?
Whenever someone utters something of controversial nature here on ATS, you immediately notice the ones who come to disrupt/divert the original flow of
discussion, and eventually kill the thread. I think you know exactly what I mean, you don't want proof as you claim. Nor do you want civil discussion
or conversation. So I ask you SaviorComplex.. why are you here?
Can you see how we aren't exactly clear on the points you are trying to make?
No, but I am crystal clear on the point YOU are trying to make.
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