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Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by Annon Omas
We all side with people, nothing wrong with that.
But you were actually playing a little reverse psychology (many religious folks do ).
Good Wolf claimed, he discusses these topics because he enjoys it.
You came back and told him that he discusses these topics because he enjoys feeling like he is right.
Its the pot calling the kettle black, to make yourself not look as though you might also be here because you get joy out of showing others you think you are right and they are not.
So often religious people do things like this....like they are the only ones here to discuss things for a humble purpose.
I didnt find it very Christian of you to basically call someone a liar in their claims for their reasons to discuss something with you.
Peace,
LV
Originally posted by noobfun
aint that the truth
Originally posted by Annon Omas
I am not against science.
Science, logic, working things out one step at a time to aquire knowledge is a good thing. Without science life would be alot worse.
if they are using conditions similar to the early earth to create life it will show not that it conclusivley formed that way but the probability of it becomes a whole lot better
Someday science may create "life" in the lab, but there would still be a problem with your theory. If this happens, you could state life "could have" began on earth. Could you prove conclusivly thats how life started. I don't think so.
it then forces the differeing view points to step up and actually try and prove thier claims, you like the word conclusive nothing in science is ever conclusive because it subject to better information
its a past event that had no observers so probability based on evidence is all we have
panspermia(microbes from space) is again based on evidence or at least the search for evidence its a hypothesis in action so can lower its odds of probability by finding it
the two other main ones relie on a lack of evidence and circumstancial evidence from myth with mass unsuported assumption rather then actually looking for evidence so the probability of those just climbs becasue of the evidence chemical evolution rna world and panspermia produces
they require faith negative proof (you cant prove its wrong so there - sillyness)
its a case of following the evidence or following a myth, personally ill take the first option
in the same way id rather see someone convicted for a crime by evidence then his eyes are to close together and his eyebrows meet in the middle so he must be suspicious and guilty of somthing so may as well be this
[edit on 22/12/08 by noobfun]
this is arguing? its not even heated discussions. no need for a truce just change the topic
Originally posted by Annon Omas
Hey noob, how bout a truce. I'm getting tired of arguing.
sloth is a sin ya know (couldnt resist)
You have your beliefs, I have mine.....the journey continues
I would like to leave you with a quote I seen awhile back, I'll have to paraphrase because I'm too lazy to go find it.
"Until we can claim we understand everything, and have the math and science to back it up, we shouldn’t dismiss faith so fervently."
Originally posted by Simplynoone
As far as right or wrong ...
You Scientific ones should know that with Math (which you use often) there is always only ONE RIGHT ANSWER is there not >?
2+2 = 4 not 3 or 6 or 8 ...there is no other answer to that equation ..
There is no middle ground in there is there ?
Originally posted by Simplynoone
Merry Christmas Noob (Well that is if it does not offend you ) ...
I was just trying to think LOGICAL since us Christians get accused of not using any logic ...thought you would be proud of me
Originally posted by Good Wolf
reply to post by Simplynoone
Square root of 25 has two correct answers. 5 and -5.
Appreciate the intent though.
LOL Ok okay ...hey I tried ..I know how to add ..but the the rest of that Math is way over my head lol .........I did not get past general math ..
Originally posted by Good Wolf
reply to post by spy66
No, the square root of 25 = 5 AND -5 (at the same time). That is the equation and it has to answers.
And in the case of 0, -0 it's more opinion. I would say that it can be the same thing because unlike 1 an -1 which are not equal, 0 and -0 are equal. Not that any of this really matters. Simply made a point which held merit but her analogy had limitations.
Simplynoone:
LOL Ok okay ...hey I tried ..I know how to add ..but the the rest of that Math is way over my head lol .........I did not get past general math ..
Really. Aw, you missed out. I reviled in math nad science at school and it filled me with great happiness to be first in science in my year a few years back.
[edit on 24/12/2008 by Good Wolf]
Originally posted by Good Wolf
reply to post by spy66
Sigh.
Way to go off on a completely unnecessary and irrelevant tangent, spy.
Well if one is to act smart at least be smart.
Originally posted by Good Wolf
reply to post by spy66
Well if one is to act smart at least be smart.
Ironic you should say this. What you've said is all well and good but you're not countering anything I've said, or contributing to the discussion.
Originally posted by spy66
Yes they are the same number but not the same thing. Thats te clue.
Thats have we seperate things with math.
Whats abowe and belowe 0 cant be the same thing. only the same number. Or amount.
Originally posted by spy66
As soon as it tips over to - or + it becomes something else then 0.
Originally posted by spy66
Because unless it is 0 it cant be the same thing.