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Topic started on 20-11-2008 @ 12:22 PM by bodrul

Arab plan explained in Hebrew ads


news.bbc.co.uk
The Palestinian Authority has placed a full-page advert in Israel's Hebrew newspapers to promote an Arab peace plan first proposed in 2002.

The Saudi-backed initiative offers Arab recognition of Israel in exchange for an end to Israel's occupation of land captured in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

It also proposes what it calls a just solution for Palestinian refugees.

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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:51 PM by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by neonine


I don't see what Israel is doing wrong. I mean all the Americans families did pretty much the same in the creation of their country.......... taking land to create a new state. Most Americans took land from the natives, I'm not saying it's right and I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just how countries are created.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:20 PM by bodrul
reply to post by neonine



the thing is the United states arms anyone it likes,
It armed Iran, China (even provided pilots, the tigers in its prime)
and so on.

either way the US will still get its arms contracts and be able to donate weapons to israel (i say donate as the US basicaly gives them the weapons through military aid)

from its arab counter parts and so on.


ufoorbhunter, big diffrence between taking land in defence
so one can create a buffer zone from it and its foes.

and planting settlements in areas which it claims to be for defencive purposes.

if this plan is implamented there would be no reason for defencive grounds.
as Israel would have full support and so forth from the people they are saying they have the land to protect them selves from.

as stated before there is a big diffrence on what you are stating.

full text in English

news.bbc.co.uk...

3. Consequently, the Arab Countries affirm the following:

a. Consider the Arab-Israeli conflict ended, and enter into a peace agreement with Israel, and provide security for all the states of the region.

b. Establish normal relations with Israel in the context of this comprehensive peace.

4. Assures the rejection of all forms of Palestinian patriation which conflict with the special circumstances of the Arab host countries.



reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:40 PM by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by bodrul


Israel took the land in 1967 in a defensive war of last resort against Arab armies about to go on the offensive. Israel has been attacked numerous times by these Arab armies, lost many people in the process and now the losers want back the advantageous land. Israel would be mad to hand back this to people who have stolen Jewish money and property throughout the Middle East and North Africa.
Every Israeli understands that all their historical property is lost throughout the whole Middle East and North Africa. If Israel does give up all land taken in defensive wars against offensive Arab armies will the arabs hand back to Israel all the land and property confiscated from the expelled and persecuted Jews in their own countries?


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:48 PM by HunkaHunka
reply to post by bodrul



Sounds rather straight up to me.


Hopefull the populace of Israel will see it that way too.


I just hope Israel doesn't take a Cheney like position on this "It's got to be done my way or no way! Ranr!"



reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:05 PM by Moonsouljah
Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
reply to
post by neonine


I don't see what Israel is doing wrong. I mean all the Americans families did pretty much the same in the creation of their country.......... taking land to create a new state. Most Americans took land from the natives, I'm not saying it's right and I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just how countries are created.



Your pro-Zionist comments seem incredibly insensitive and inflammatory. Two wrongs usually don't make a right-especially not in this case. You're right- the current assemblage of nation-states around the world is predicated on the losses of many indigenous peoples. You said you don't see what Israel has to gain-How about what Palestinians have left to lose in their SYSTEMATIC DEHUMANIZATION AND GENOCIDE? To answer your question though on Israel's gain- how about some forgiveness of it's neighboring Arab state(Jordan for example, which harbors millions of Palestinian refugees) in hopes of future peace.
If you want to play eye-for-eye, give the Palestinians some nukes- better yet a decent caloric intake and clean water- or the peace of mind in knowing their home won't be demolished tomorrow- or the hope that their children will have some sort of viable future.
BTW- I'm SOOOOOO sick of hearing the assumption that the US is naturally allied with Israel, at least make the distinction the US military industrial complex and Israel are allies or the Zionist leaders in Washington and Israel are allies.
Zionism is a cancer peddled by the religious right and our malevolent leaders and those who control the currency.

Also, how about Obama gets a new Fed Chairman- one that's NOT a Jew. we haven't had a Goyim Fed chairman since 1979.--3 Decades of Federal Reserve Jewry!!! and we can see how that's worked out.
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