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Topic started on 19-11-2008 @ 03:33 PM by matrix911
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Okay now this is EFFIN C R A Z Y!! Again, not sure if this has been posted or discussed here, but this is another doc/video i've not seen before and
imo, this may be one of the most amazing and/or damning evidence yet of the conspiracy... and If this isn't the ultimate smoking gun and NEW PROOF
drones were involved and 9/11's an inside job, i don't know what is...
Now before I get too excited here, I probably should again ask, CAN ANYONE VERIFY THIS???????????????????
side note:
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Oh and btw, Not sure if anyone happen to notice the bizarre number MATRIX of 9 1 1 coincidence today for these POWERFUL and unique new sets of
info/vids/discussions or its awareness hitting this board and perhaps getting an official foothold around the CT circles.... I didn't even realize it
until a few moments ago....
Its 11/19 today
or 1119
a couple of other 11 connections to 9/11 I just realized and haven't seen pointed out:
the first planet HIT AT 9:02 (11)
WTC 7's came down in 6.5 SEC (11)
Tower 2 came down in 65 minutes (11)
the time it would take for an object to fall from the top of one of the 1350ft WTC towers is 9.2 seconds (11)
9/11 COMMISSION FINAL REPORT came out on 7/22 (11)
9/11 COMMISSION CLOSED ITS DOORS/ENDED on 8/21 (11)
go figure....
and you thought Neo's passport was freaky
matrix 9 1 1 indeed!!
Mod edit: Edited title.
Mod edit: Embedded videos.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 04:27 PM by Outlawstar
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Extremely intruiging, can anyone prove whether or not this is tampered footage?
Because if it isint, the we may have a smoking gun here after all.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 05:50 PM by AceWombat04
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While this is extremely interesting and admittedly - to me at least - suspicious, I have to keep in mind that in a large city there are all sorts of
light sources and reflective surfaces that this light could be attributed to. If not for the parallel movement of the reflections in the smoke and on
the other building, I would still not rule out the possibility that it was merely paper, because the paper scattered by the impact explosion look
identical in size, shape, color, and "flicker," to the alleged targeting light.
Again though, it's very interesting and anything is possible. I would have to know for certain that the parallel light reflection movement appears in
other footage as well and not just this one, though, as that is what lends this credibility in terms of it not just being a piece of paper. Take away
the parallel movement of the light reflections, and I would be back to suspecting that it was just paper.
In case anyone wonders or leaps to their own conclusions, I neither believe nor disbelieve that 9/11 was an inside job.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:01 PM by 12m8keall2c
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Originally posted by AceWombat04
In case anyone wonders or leaps to their own conclusions, I neither believe nor disbelieve that 9/11 was an inside job.
Agreed. :up;
With regards the opening post,
Find and watch the high-res versions of the actual footage the videos are taken from, it becomes quite clear that the "objects" in question are
indeed falling and tumbling all the while... not merely a "spot" moving across the facade of the building.
for those who want to see it as or believe otherwise... will
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:24 PM by Outlawstar
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Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
Originally posted by AceWombat04
In case anyone wonders or leaps to their own conclusions, I neither believe nor disbelieve that 9/11 was an inside job.
Agreed. :up;
With regards the opening post,
Find and watch the high-res versions of the actual footage the videos are taken from, it becomes quite clear that the "objects" in question are
indeed falling and tumbling all the while... not merely a "spot" moving across the facade of the building.
for those who want to see it as or believe otherwise... will
$.02
I think its up to you to find the video to back up what your saying, it would be interesting to hear your analysis, instead of just saying it IS what
you think it is you know?
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:47 PM by Atlantican
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Cameras tend to pick up concentrated infrared light too.
IR could be being used there. Human eyes wouldn't pick it up either!
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:48 PM by Atlantican
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Get a video camera and hit record... Aim various remote controls at it and hit the buttons... Play it back! Voila!
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:50 PM by Outlawstar
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Originally posted by Atlantican
Get a video camera and hit record... Aim various remote controls at it and hit the buttons... Play it back! Voila!
Never thought of it like that, can anyone prove this isint how it was done?
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:01 PM by Atlantican
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Well what I mean is that the lights on the buildings could be high powered IR laser from the white military planes circling around that day and only
the camera able to pick up the ir light.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:49 PM by thedman
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The window frames of WTC towers were made of highly polished aluminium - I live in New Jersey a few miles west of NYC. I could see
the WTC towers from my neighborhood. On a sunny day the buildings
would shine like a mirror, the light reflecting off the glass and aluminium
exterior. What you are seeing is light flare reflecting off building
there are numerous reflective surfaces including the Winter Garden in the
area to bounce light around. Have been at the WTC site dozens of times
can attest to the fact .
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 09:51 AM by IvanZana
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This is the missile pod disinformation campaign started by the perps themselves to obsefucate the truth while making truthers look stupid and I see
they are trying another round. Pentagon disinfo is being stepped up this month too.
There is alreardy 10 threads about this video. The light is just paper as it was debunked in 2003 easily on the letsroll911 website. Funny thing is
that letsroll911 is the creator of all the stupid conspiracy theories that debunkers loves to debunk pubically generating a false win for the
debunkers.
Missile pods, windoless tanker, laser targeting, is all disinfo ment to distract you from the lack of evidence that proves that flight 11 crashed
into tower 1, the lack of a boeing 757 in the Shankville crater, the wargame exercises that shadowed the terrorist attack, insider trading,
destruction of cruicial evidence, gold missising from the WTC, the evidence that proves the u.s planned the attacks, Israel's , pakistan's, france
and germany's involvement in the execution of the 911 attacks.
Like to add that I know of 5 debunkers that moonlight as 911 truthers. They spread bad theories and looney conspiracy theories and then log on as a
debunker, then debunk their own thread with logic showing the readers that truthers are idiots and debunkers are right.
Please read more about disinformation tactics here. www.proparanoid.net...
and of course, a must read... Pod People hijack the 9/11 truth movement
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:01 AM by wmd_2008
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That white object is a piece of debris from the other tower if you look closer
at the explosion after the plane hits you see similar debris from that
no smoking gun he was smoking drugs more like!
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:11 PM by matrix911
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Originally posted by Outlawstar
Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
Originally posted by AceWombat04
In case anyone wonders or leaps to their own conclusions, I neither believe nor disbelieve that 9/11 was an inside job.
Agreed. :up;
With regards the opening post,
Find and watch the high-res versions of the actual footage the videos are taken from, it becomes quite clear that the "objects" in question are
indeed falling and tumbling all the while... not merely a "spot" moving across the facade of the building.
for those who want to see it as or believe otherwise... will
$.02
I think its up to you to find the video to back up what your saying, it would be interesting to hear your analysis, instead of just saying it IS what
you think it is you know?
I AGREE... i'd like to see this "actual footage" especially in hi res... i haven't been able to find "them" yet
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:21 PM by matrix911
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Originally posted by Atlantican
Get a video camera and hit record... Aim various remote controls at it and hit the buttons... Play it back! Voila!
the "spot" movement is too consistent and geometrically aligned in its movement which i assume would be almost impossible to create in the manner
you suggest... which further lends credibility to the theory this may in fact be whats being claimed.
furthermore as pointed out, the "spot" coincides with the spot being seen in the SMOKE... more evidence disproving not only the graphic effect claim
of post production but the floating paper hypothesis.
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:25 PM by matrix911
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Originally posted by wmd_2008
That white object is a piece of debris from the other tower if you look closer
at the explosion after the plane hits you see similar debris from that
no smoking gun he was smoking drugs more like!
I disagree... there is no other similar debris creating any similar spot movement.
please show supporting analysis that proves your claim...
the suspect spot is the only "spot" or anomali following a consistent movement or designated path. All other spots seen are random and move
randomly which are probably the papers or debris pointed out.
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:51 PM by matrix911
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This is a MAJOR smoking gun IMO... one of the clearest examples of inside job... and I think this GUN will get much bigger and more attention soon.
A few other SG examples include Lloyds admission "it was planned" and his wifes comments "yeah, what you said" etc, change of story, and fact no
pole of that size could have pierced his vehicle and leave the hood undamaged... CE CE LYLES personal effects found intact... hi jackers passports
found at wtc... disintegration of the spire validating Judy Wood...
wtc7 clear demolition... nearly all eyewitnesses supporting seeing AAc and UA's hit nearly all can be proven to have connections to FBI, CIA, and
government officials.... planting/staging of wreckage... and Government stone-walling, refusal to release all evidence especially full footage clearly
tampered with from pentagon cams to fake footage and poor cgi graphics in alleged "live" shots.
If even one of these cannot be answered or logically explained, that a
lone is proof this conspiracy isn't a theory.
This is the most blatant conspiracy ever pulled off ... and the biggest reason so many don't believe it, is because IT IS SO BLATANT. Most peoples
brains are so conditioned or brainwashed to accept what they're being told and shown by the media is TRUTH, that they cannot conceive that anyone
would be crazy enough to be that blatant and in plain sight.
whether it was planned on having so many flaws is unknown... but it has been working in the perps favor temporarily...
I bet the perps are just as amazed they got away with it so far with all their screw ups... almost like the surprised look on OJ's face when he was
first acquitted.
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:55 PM by matrix911
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Originally posted by thedman
The window frames of WTC towers were made of highly polished aluminium - I live in New Jersey a few miles west of NYC. I could see
the WTC towers from my neighborhood. On a sunny day the buildings
would shine like a mirror, the light reflecting off the glass and aluminium
exterior. What you are seeing is light flare reflecting off building
there are numerous reflective surfaces including the Winter Garden in the
area to bounce light around. Have been at the WTC site dozens of times
can attest to the fact .
NO WAY... not in the pattern the "spot/anomali) proceeded in.
there's no randomness about it... its a perfect sequential semetrical pattern
unlike any other "papers" or alleged "reflections"
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 10:22 AM by lifeform
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its a piece of paper. the towers held lots of paper, they were basically offices that did a hell of a lot of paper work.
the other tower had already been hit, spewing debris out of the building, i'd expect a fair bit of it was paper to.
the paper is'nt moving across the face of the WTC, its proberbly ferther away from the face of the WTC than it appears and lower down, its a case of
prespective and the angle the filmer is filming at.
you can clearly see the paper moving across the opposite building, and it did'nt disappear untill the black text box covers it and the camera zooms
out, making it harder for the camera to pick up smaller details.
if you watched the video without any information being given, then you would certainly conclude paper. thats why the video needs to be suggestive
before actually showing the footage.
the power of suggestion at play.
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 11:12 AM by Oreyeon
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I will tell you this guys. I was waiting for someone to post this video. I remember 9/11 like it was yesterday. I was at work when it happened, and we
got most of the day to sit in the cafeteria and watch the news. I saw this on the news, ON THAT DAY! So there is no way that it was created by some
"Conspiracy Theorist" with extra time on their hands. In fact, I clearly remember pointing it out to a fellow co-worker, and asking, "What the hell
is that? Looks like a laser dot." I don't remember what news station we were watching, but I do remember seeing it on that day. Because on the same
day, when the towers collapsed, I remember all of us in the cafeteria exclaiming that bombs just went off in the towers to bring them down, because we
saw explosions right before they fell. And on that footage of the explosions, I have not seen the news clip of that since that day. But I know what I
saw, and from that very day, I smelled a rat on the whole fiasco.
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 11:27 AM by IvanZana
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Dble post
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