Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State?

reply to post by FlyersFan


Richardson would be a good change of pace. Heard about him during the primaries and he seems like a good guy. Hilary scares me still acting and dressing like a woman when it's clear... Anyways, more nightmares. And to the other posters, www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by GamerGal


And your point?

That thread is just as ignorant and partisan as your posts here.

No wonder it's getting all that attention.



Anything constructive to add?

Originally posted by GamerGal
Richardson would be a good change of pace.

He has a lot of experience on the international scene and he's very good at what he does. I disagree with some of the things he says but he has lots of experience and could handle the job well. I'm surprised that Obama hasn't gone with Richardson for either Vice President or Secretary of State. He could do either job and do it well.

But I'll still take a Secretary of State Hillary over John Kerry, anyday!

reply to post by FlyersFan


John Kerry looks like Frankenstein's Monster, Clinton looks like a gargoyle and has more testosterone then Kerry lol. But I hope he does go for Richardson. Would he have any say on the border issues though? From a border state and of Hispanic descent... Where I live it doesn't affect me but it does affect America. Would he be more "We need to make them citizens so they pay taxes and are paid the same as the rest of Americans" or is he "Build a wall and keep them out."

Originally posted by GamerGal

Think about it. The GOP hates Obama but... if they kill him they get Biden. Not too bad, an old rich white guy, but he's old and could die from age complications.

Which means... Pelosi. They won't want her in so they'll kill her.

Then who is next? Democrat Robert Byrd. Then who? Secretary of State! Pretty much Obama needs to make the people in line to be people the GOP hate more then a black man to keep himself safer. But then again the GOP might be willing to kill a couple dozen people just so they get a republican back in the top spot.

Accusing the GOP of being willing to kill a "couple dozen people" and hating black people is straight from the college socialists handbook and nothing to do with choosing Clinton as Secretary of State, it's just another excuse for a round of "kick the conservatives".

Those people who you choose to denigrate so freely are the people who made this country so successful, those whom you choose to align with will ultimately secure its downfall.

If those are the kind of posts you typically make on this subject, your current points score makes a lot of sense.

Its common knowledge that Obama looks back to the Lincoln presidency for inspiration and what Lincoln did was to put all of his political rivals in his cabinet so he could keep an eye on them.

When you think about it... since we are talking about the Clinton's.... it might be the wise thing to do.

I'm pretty sure that Bill would love Hillary to be Secretary of state. She'd be out of the country a lot of the time.

I'm not sure how I view Hillary as Secretary of State. I'll reserve my judgment until I see how she performs.

reply to post by grover


Like having Powell in as Sec. of Defense? Although he's not really the enemy just a former Republican. But I think my theory is why the GOP is calling for Gates to stay as SOD. That way they only need to kill five people to get a Republican back in the top spot. And people who say this is waaay out there, tell the Kennedies that. Every one who went against Nixon was shot. Tell RR that after a family friend of his VP shot him. The GOP NeoCons are power hungry and have no problem even killing their own President to seize power. Oh wait, talking about a conspiracy on a conspiracy board... How dare I right?

Right now Obama is going to meet John McCain... Maybe he is going back to the old days? Before the President was the one who got the most votes, and the VP was the guy who got the second most votes. Maybe he is meeting McCain to offer him the position of Sec. of State? Which would kill my theory of Obama setting up an Assassination Proof White House.

This thread is kind of crazy. So far hardly anyone has given an intelligent argument either for or against Clinton as Secretary of State, just a lot of mud-slinging at each other and each other's parties.

My two cents: The Clintons are very popular around the world, and Hillary could be very successful in strenthening America's ties to our allies and supporters and a fierce opponent of our enemies when she needs to be. She's brilliant, knowledgeable and no wimp when it comes to opposition. She is also a skillful diplomat who knows how to cement good relationships.

reply to post by Sestias


Agreed... Ya don't want someone soft, warm or fuzzy for Sec. of State especially these days.

The idea that Obama is not representing change because he is appointing or considering many Clinton names is laughable. Guess what people, in the last 28 years, only one Democrat has been President and his name is William Jefferson Clinton. If you're looking for qualified and capable Democrats, you look to the Clinton administration.

As for Clinton as Secretary of State.

She is a superstar around the world. She is respected and well-liked abroad and have a standing relationship with many world leaders. Considering what the next President have to get done abroad, Clinton seems like a good pick. I personally think Kerry and Richardson want the position too badly. They don't have the same gravitas as Clinton.

reply to post by MasterRegal


I don't know, Richardson has experience coming out of his ears. He was the UN ambassador for Clinton ya know.

[edit on 14-11-2008 by grover]

Originally posted by grover
reply to post by MasterRegal

 

I don't know, Richardson has experience coming out of his ears. He was the UN ambassador for Clinton ya know.

[edit on 14-11-2008 by grover]

I didn't say he did not have experience. He is Governor of New Mexico, was UN Ambassador, was Energy Secretary, and was a Congressman. He has all the experience in the world. He has negotiated with world leaders. It does not mean he is the best person for the job. If he is chosen, that's great, we have someone on the job or actually understands how to do the job. But, Richardson also proved himself to be pretty much an idiot on the campaign.

With the Presidential line of succession here is how Hillary will fall into the chances of her becoming President...
en.wikipedia.org...

I think that one of the reasons she has been chosen was from when she and Obama both went before the Bilderbergers meeting shortly before she lost to Obama.

Question is, why have they chosen her to represent the country as Secretary of State?

Just as we saw two successions of the Bush administration and their agendas, will we also see an continuation of the work former President Bill Clinton left behind as well? If so take a look at the past administration and the direction Hilary mat focus on as Secretary of State.

en.wikipedia.org...

An important read, very disturbing in that since the past 8 years, the conditions have fallen to pieces in the countries where the Clinton Administration worked to end suffering and bring peaceful military presence to these areas. We are far too spread out now to even consider using the same strategies, so where does this agenda pick up? And is Clinton the right choice to bring peace to the world through her diplomatic presence with her Husband at her side?





[edit on 14-11-2008 by antar]

reply to post by antar


She was not even offered the job yet and why bring conspiracy into this news.

reply to post by grover

Actually, as I look back on ol' Bill's administration and the state of the country during that time, I realize that the things he did that really bothered me all have one of two things in common: Al Gore and/or the Hildebeast. Heck if he was divorced and able to run this last time, I would have campaigned for the guy.

Hillary scares me to no end. There was one time on the CB during the Clinton years when I heard someone asking if Hillary was the Anti-Christ. I answered him and said no, she was here to keep the Anti-Christ scared to show his face.

• Hillary-Care
  
• "It takes a village"
  
• Manipulation of stock markets while simultaneously speaking out against such.
  
• 'Illegal' possession of FBI records on her political opponents found in the White House.
  
• Vince Foster (and others)

'Nuff said. She was there for all of them. Bill was sitting in the Oval Office with Monica, harming no one except that poor blue dress.

TheRedneck

Weird that he's bringing in all the Clinton administration people, well not really. But it's known that they're controlled by the elite and that Bill Clinton attends Bohemian Grove and Hillary attends Bilderberg meetings. And that Bill Clinton was controlled by George H.W. Bush throughout his administration.

I thought Obama said no re-treads anyway! Damn it, I was actually excited for a little while about Obama.

reply to post by TheRedneck


Hillary never bothered me all that much... I was opposed to her running for president because I didn't think that there was a candidate out there that would so unite the right and divide the left as her and more importantly if she had gotten the nod and the election that would be 4 presidents in a row that was either a Bush or a Clinton and having so much power in the hands of two family bases is never good.

I'm thinking it's more of a ' keep your friends close and your enemies even closer' kinda thing.
If she was Secretary of State he'll have at least some idea what she's up to.