Video: Gay Marriage Proponents Attack Elderly Woman

reply to post by undo

witness the one child policy... you do realize their orphanges are mostly filled with girls that no one wants?).

Again this has nothing to do with a sexuality. This is because families in China want boys due to their honor preference. This is not homosexuals or homosexualities fault.

[edit on 13-11-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

oh i give up.
you people star each other's posts, make me work my fanny off to prove even the slightest point, knowing full well that i wouldn't hurt you if my life depended on it, and the thanks i get is condescending crap about how you're so surprised at my baffling information -- as if i were talking a foreign language and couldn't say anything intelligent on the subject if my life depended on it! what's so baflling about the FACT that the number of females that have been killed or aborted in china as a result of the one child policy is the vicinity of the entire female population of the usa!? what's so baffling about the FACT that some of the best educated people of ancient greece were pedophiles in a pedophile country, who influenced the rest of the people via social pressures, to follow suit? is that my fault? i think not!

whatever. just go back to whatever it was you were doing. i'll go baffle myself or something

reply to post by undo


Would still like for you to show me where I was making a threat to you in ANY of my posts.

Cheers!!!!

reply to post by undo


I asked you to show me where the site you listed proved or even gave evidence to support homosexuality had any hand in the atrocities you mentioned. You never replied to my post, I gave you the opportunity to support your claims, you haven’t.

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage


OH. MY. GOSH! it isn't about homosexuals, specifically! it's about social pressure to adapt an alternative lifestyle for the purpose of culling the population, which results, typically, in a very low female population. that's what it's about. and with low female pop, your available pool from which to draw military forces, drops off, especially if the men form groups of their own in the interim. it's history! i'm just giving you an idea how the guys at the top plan the future. it's happened again and again in history.

reply to post by undo


Actually you are completely missing our point. Sorry if my use of the word 'baffle' made you explode in anger and frustration. I guess you didn't believe my part about respecting your intelligence. I wasn't being sarcastic.

This is the point you are either missing or intentionally disregarding:

Homosexuality, the natural sexual orientation, has no direct relationship with this covert fascists male-dominated power elite. Anything these people theoretically FORCE heterosexual people to do...has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Therefore, homosexuality does not directly lead to anything you are saying it does. Your whole argument relies on the notion that there is an infact a similar power elite with a similar sexual fascist agenda as to what theoretically took place back in Greek times, and that homosexuality allows them to realize their agenda.

Homosexuality was not directly a culprit then, and it wouldn't be in the scenario you are painting here either.

[edit on 13-11-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]

reply to post by undo


You know Undo, when multiple readers misinterpret the meaning of your words in the same way, it is usually a sign that the writer may be at fault and needs to either paraphrase or find a wholly different approach to conveying the message.

reply to post by undo


Again: fail to see how that site links all those problems to homosexuals? Maybe you could quote whatever it is you are seeing and please provide me a quote that shows who the author is?

reply to post by undo


WHAT????


Umm...oook. Well for one thing, the majority of gay people are not out to change society as to thwart the number of females! Where the heck did you come up with that idea????

And are you aware that there are a good number of gay men and women who serve in the military???? So what does your statement of reducing available people for miliitary service have anything to do with gay's simply wanting to be treated like everyone else?????

Oh...and please point to me where that threat was made to you in my post.

Thank you.

Cheers!!!!

reply to post by Lucid Lunacy


believe what you want, but as i said before, those guys at the top are just as likely as not, to be homosexuals themselves. in which case it would be a matter of "don't do as i do, do as i say." which leaders are accustomed to enforcing on the rest of us. they will use the natural inclination of homosexuals to defend themselves against the natural inclination of heterosexuals to be turned off or otherwise in disagreement with homosexuality, to play up the division, to generate sympathy, to force change, to ostracize those that disagree, to create a social norm, and then reverse prejudice will kick in with a vengeance. all those lessons about learning to be tolerant of gays, will be totally lost as they become the new and only incrowd (it's just the natural ebb and flow of culture, the pendulum of dionysis and apollo, swinging back and forth from extreme to extreme because we never want to learn from history and so repeat the same mistakes over and over).

reply to post by undo


Okay...

I understand what you are saying (I think).

This power elite of men want a very low amount of women in the population. They basically don't care about women. They want more men. They do what they can to normalize homosexuality, as to deter procreation. Obviously we need women to procreate...so this naturally collapses the society.

Do I understand the gist of it so far?

reply to post by undo


You don't have to worry about gay becoming the new lifestyle in America. Gays will always be a minority as long as Christianity is misused by it's followers. We'll still have plenty of little soldiers to send off to die in unnecessary wars.

reply to post by Lucid Lunacy


yep, that's basically it. for example, when china instituted the one child policy, they knew how their people would react. they knew what they believed and they knew it would cull out of the population, the baby producers, like so many head of cattle on a farm.

reply to post by ThePiemaker


minority my left buttock. i dated a gay man in high school, who was trying to go straight. i knew several others as well, and that was a small town 30 years ago. the boy my daughter grew up with as friends, is gay. there's lots of gays. no more of that ...oh we are such a little group of picked on people! you are not little, but yah, people are mean. which is frankly, my point.

I get the feeling that now perhaps the real reason for the lashing against gay's by undo has come to light after that last post.


Cheers!!!!

reply to post by RFBurns


what lashing against gays?
are you reading my posts or just trolling me?

reply to post by undo

what lashing against gays?

You are blaming gays for issues they have nothing to do with, like China's population control. While sad, that does not belong in this thread, it has absolutely nothing to do with the original topic for one, but it also does not relate to gays destroying society at all.

Maybe you should make a seperate thread about this issue and map out your case. I'll be happy to discuss it with you there. So far there is no reason to continue this discussion, you have given no evidence to your claims, only opinions and these post have been off topic anyway. Night.

I am actually TRYING to understand what you are saying. It seems to me that as I read your posts, your going from one extreme about gay's to another, stating that their purpose is everything from population reduction, to social changes that a majority of gay's dont even think of as part of their reasons for speaking out, to saying that they would cause acceptance of pedophiles, and even going as far as accusing me of making a threat to you!

So far...I am having a hard time trying to understand your point of view on the gay community in the world. But since this is a free country and you most definately are entitled to your opinion, I would be the last one on the entire planet that would keep you from voicing that opinion.

As I said, I am just trying to understand your opinion.

Now..if you dont mind....I still would like for you to point out to me where that threat is in my post a couple of pages back. I think that out of all that has been said by you in this entire thread..you at least should have the respect, and responsibility, to point that threat out to me since you accused me of it.

And if you can do that, and it clearly shows that I made a direct threat to you, I would definately accept the responsibility of that and publicly apologize to you in front of this entire ATS community.

Thank you.

Cheers!!!!

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage


man you are so totally set in your mind that i couldn't possibly mean anything else but attack the gay, attack the gay, you can't see the forest for the woods. this isn't specifically about homosexuality. it's about the combination of a high population, patriarchal planet, with an agenda to slow the population growth by whatever means necessary. that homosexuality fits neatly into that plan is a plus for homosexuals and a minus for heteros, especially hetero women, unborn females and newborn females. this is historical. you asked for historical evidence, i gave you it. it isn't the homosexuality by itself, it's the combination of all of the above.

i made a post quite similar to this on theforce.net forums a few years ago. my premise was that women were becoming obsolete as science and genetics advanced. that eventually, due to low female pops, having been weeded out extensively in the far, middle and near east, hetero males n these countries would be left with 3 choices

1) go gay
2) learn to love porno permanently and exclusively
3) go celebate

meanwhile, as the rest of the world pops exploded, the same scenarios would be repeated in other places, even in the west, till there was pretty much just a few scattered lesbians, bisexuals and a huge group of homosexual males.

reply to post by undo


I went back and read every post on the last few pages to make sure I understood what you were saying. I do understand your idea. I am even going to assume it is true. Now let's consider some things... *and I realize I am reinforcing things we have already established*

1. People can be forced to have homosexual sex, but that does not make them homosexual. Sexual orientations are natural. You are talking about sexual fascism. Normalizing homosexuality does not create this orientation. Promoting and encouraging homosexual sex does not create this orientation. Societal pressure may cause homosexual sex but it does not create homosexual people i.e the orientation itself.

2. The agenda of 'culling down' the population would be the agenda of this specific power elite of men (not every man right? Cuz I love women) and not the agenda of the gay community itself. Gay women would obviously not agree with this agenda, for instance.

3. This has no direct relationship with the actual homosexual orientation. The collapse of Greece was not the result of the homosexual orientation. If your theory is correct, it is still not the result of this sexual orientation. It would purely be the aftermath of a fascist elite with a specific agenda i.e to rid themselves of women. Who are simply exploiting the fact that homosexuals can't procreate. Hence, no direct connection to the sexual orientation itself.

4. I see no reason to believe accepting and embracing the homosexual orientation in our society would inadvertently open the door for this power-elite of men to take over. There is a huge leap between those two stages. And I don't believe there is enough men with this agenda in our Modern Society to have such a forceful presence to begin with.

[edit on 13-11-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]