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reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 03:46 PM by TheRooster
reply to post by calihan123


I went to church today (as I do most Sundays), after the homily Father Morrison took a moment to acknowledge all the hate that seems to be permeating (invading) our daily lives. Whether it be radio, tv or print, there seems to be a deep division and a tremendous amount of hate. He said no matter who wins on Tuesday, we all need to come together, unite as one, and go forth spreading love and acceptance.

I was born and raised Roman Catholic, and I can't remember one time, not once, when anyone in any of the churches I attended, suggested that we go forth and spread anything but love and acceptance.

So I wonder, what church did John Lennon go to that gave him the impression having faith was such a bad thing?

[edit on 11/2/2008 by TheRooster]



reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 04:43 PM by ashamedamerican
reply to post by TheRooster


Nowhere in that song, or in anything else that I'v ever heard or read by John Lennon did he say that people shouldn't have faith...

He's talking about organized religion.

More hate, pain, suffering, and death have been the result of organized religion, than any nation, group, or anything else on this planet.

Since the beginning of time, more people have died at the hands of organized religion than even the nazi's could have ever dreamed of.

Again, I'v never heard John Lennon speak badly of faith.
Having faith in god doesn't mean that you have to subscribe to any organized religion.

"I haven't got any sort of dream of a physical heaven where there's lots of chocolate and pretty women in nightgowns, playing harps," he said. "I believe you can make heaven within your own mind. The kingdom of heaven is within you, Christ said, and I believe that." - John Lennon

"I believe in God, but not as one thing, not as an old man in the sky. I believe that what people call God is something in all of us. I believe that what Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha and all the rest said was right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong." - John Lennon

“Community praying is probably very powerful. … I’m just against the hypocrisy and the hat-wearing and the socializing and the tea parties,” - John Lennon

Call him a druggie, a degenerate, a hippie, whatever makes you sleep better at night.
The truth is that the day he was murdered, mankind lost one of it's greatest, most prolific, and free minded members.
The world is a poorer place without him.

[edit on 2-11-2008 by ashamedamerican]


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 05:34 PM by TheRooster
reply to post by calihan123


So then in the absence of organized religion which do you think would prevail?

Love

or

Anarchy?


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 06:14 PM by ashamedamerican
reply to post by TheRooster


You don't need to go to church, or be a member of an organized religion to have faith, or worship god.

Acts 17:24-25 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things.

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

I subscribe to NO organized religion, I do not go to church.
I don't need to go to a supposed "house of god" to worship him (or her) or have faith.

How does a priests telling you that you're a sinner, and threatening you with eternal damnation in hell make you any closer to god?
My personal opinion is that god would be ashamed of the organized religions today.


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 06:19 PM by calihan123
Originally posted by ashamedamerican
reply to post by TheRooster


You don't need to go to church, or be a member of an organized religion to have faith, or worship god.

Acts 17:24-25 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things.

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

I subscribe to NO organized religion, I do not go to church.
I don't need to go to a supposed "house of god" to worship him (or her) or have faith.

How does a priests telling you that you're a sinner, and threatening you with eternal damnation in hell make you any closer to god?
My personal opinion is that god would be ashamed of the organized religions today.



That is exactly the same point I was trying to make. Going to church only frightens you into being a good person. Whereas having your own beliefs allows you to be free and believe what you want to without feeling like you are being judged for every move you make.
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