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New form of TB is airborne, drug resistant and it's in New York

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posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 03:45 AM
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this may be very leathal if airborne, i say if airborne, because this is the first time i ever heard of this. if this is true and is deadly, it will be very noticeable in a year, on the news. also if this strain mixes with the h5n1 newest strain happenning all over now, were all dead.peace.




posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 03:49 AM
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Unfortunate yes, but viruses mutate to survive, this is how they operate and evolve. NWO population killing pandemic?
I'm afraid to break the news to everyone, such a thing doesn't, and never will, exist.



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:04 AM
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Symptoms of XDR-TB are no different from ordinary or drug-susceptible TB: a cough with thick, cloudy mucus (or sputum), sometimes with blood, for more than 2 weeks; fever, chills, and night sweats; fatigue and muscle weakness; weight loss; and in some cases shortness of breath and chest pain. A person with these symptoms does not necessarily have XDR-TB, but they should see doctor for a check-up. TB patients whose symptoms do not improve after a few weeks of treatment with TB and you are taking treatment should inform their clinician or nurse.

ummm.....wonder how many of those uninsured, underinsured people out there would just ignore these symptoms and just continue working for as long as they could, and well, spread the germs around??? Simply because they don't need any more doctor's bills and the irratating debt collectors harassing the crap out of them!

but oh, ya, universal healthcare is socialism, ya that's right...
why should you have to pay for someone's elses healthcare?
well....as far as I know, there is no law on the books that says the state, or you, can force someone to go hopelessly into debt either.
are you willing to pay for a little more security at your workplace, the grocery store, mall, church, ect??

the state of our healthcare systme is a threat to our national security!




[edit on 31-10-2008 by dawnstar]



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by Tgautier13
Unfortunate yes, but viruses mutate to survive, this is how they operate and evolve. NWO population killing pandemic?
I'm afraid to break the news to everyone, such a thing doesn't, and never will, exist.


what will never exist?...a disease purposely created and spread secretly by our 'governments'?

sorry to inform you but it is pretty well known fact that this sort of thing has already happened many times throughout modern history..



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by mopusvindictus
quite an incentive to stay home and avoid conflict and die in your homes where they can remove the bodies, decontaminate at will


that.. and the rest of your ranting post explains to me why I am always under the impression that ATS'ers are paranoid loners with no friends.

Me.. I am a paranoid family man with no friends so were about even I suppose.



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 08:06 AM
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You should know that if you suspect that you have TB and do..you will be treated even if you don't have insurance. Your financial situation won't matter - It is a public health issue. My mother had TB in the late 80s and all us kids and our dad had to take medicine for over a year, plus we missed boat loads of school. The county we lived in took it VERY seriously indeed. The fact that we were illgeal aliens and had no insurance had absolutley no bearing whatsoever on the health care we recieved.



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 09:03 AM
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Well for a pretty well known fact I haven't heard of it, and I consider myself pretty knowledgeable in this area. Care to point me in the direction of credible resources?



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 10:45 AM
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Nothing posted on the CDC.org website yet?

www.cdc.gov...

www.cdc.gov...




posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo

This is really disturbing.

Tuberculosis is a really deadly virus and this new form is airborne...

[edit on 30-10-2008 by Vitchilo]


im going to stop right there

TB is NOT a virus.

TB has ALWAYS been airborne. Its mainly route of infection in by aerosolised droplets expelled during breathing and coughing of an infected individual.

And modern drug treatment, when carried out appropriately, is very effective at stopping the infection.

PEOPLE- IF YOUR GOING TO SCAREMONGER, ITS MORE EFFECTIVE IF YOU GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by johnDoe21

Originally posted by Vitchilo

This is really disturbing.

Tuberculosis is a really deadly virus and this new form is airborne...

[edit on 30-10-2008 by Vitchilo]


im going to stop right there

TB is NOT a virus.

TB has ALWAYS been airborne. Its mainly route of infection in by aerosolised droplets expelled during breathing and coughing of an infected individual.

And modern drug treatment, when carried out appropriately, is very effective at stopping the infection.

PEOPLE- IF YOUR GOING TO SCAREMONGER, ITS MORE EFFECTIVE IF YOU GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT


I'm not sure about everybody else, but isn't the first thing you should do when confronted with a 'OMG scary fact', search google for it? That was my natural reaction, and one of the first things I learned about TB is that it has always been airborne, it is in fact bacterial, and mortality rate for it in developed countries is fairly low. So I would say that is probably why this isn't a big news story in the MSM.



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 01:35 PM
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It's time that all countries have strict criteria for immigration and/or visitation.

Before you should be able to fly on a plane, you should have to have a clean TB test.

An airplane is the perfect way to spread an airborne disease. You've got a lot of people locked into a confined space for some period of time. The air circulation equipment does not filter out germs

Every country needs to do their part to halt the spread of this terrible disease.



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 02:22 PM
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.....wouldn't want to be a jail guard at Rikers Island!



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 02:22 PM
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Ha, unsubstantiated scaremongering at its best. 30 seconds on google can tell the layman what i spent 10 years in college learning, so this sort of story shouldnt have the impact it does here on ATS. Since peopledont actually bother to check out the basics, we end up with yet another pointless thread.

Lately, around here, its getting to the point where its pointless even opening 99% of the threads.



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 02:36 PM
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This really scares me as I have been sick for about two weeks and went to the hospital because I couldn't breathe. Was told I have pneumonia and was put on doxycyclin for almost ten days now and I still wake up not being able to breath and end up coughing up a lung. I thought something weird was going on when I was seeing a lot of people in the hospital with the same symptoms as me, but then again it is flu season.



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:32 PM
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This is not good! I wonder why the government hasn't told anyone about it yet... What is this world coming too! We need to sort this out and quick. I am going to be telling everyone i know about it, in hope they tell their other half of friends and so on...



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 04:50 PM
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I just called my sister, she lives in NYC.

I couldn't get a hold of her so I left a message.

I warned her about the new strain of TB that has come about.

I just received a text message from her saying that her friend started having lung problems and she said that doctors are afraid that its TB!!!

She sounds very frightened now, especially after I told her that 1 of 6 people die and there is no available cure.

I told her to stay away from her friend, and to stay away from coughing people.

This is all very scary.......



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 08:19 PM
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From wikepedia- Effective treatment requires that all six classes of second-line drugs are available to clinicians who have special expertise in treating such cases.

apparently there is a cure mabey you should get the full story before you go panicking your sister



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 10:01 PM
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my uncle lives in NJ and visits NYC regularly. he called today hes at the haloween parade there and said there are police cars everywhere he said he never seen so many before and he goes there often he said they were on every corner. i was checking to see if anything was going on there this was the only thread related to NYC but if anyone lives there maybe you know whats going on. i was thinking it was because of the parade but he said theres so many police cars.



posted on Oct, 31 2008 @ 11:22 PM
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There is a cure for normal TB but here we are talking about the drug resistant strain which is extremely affective at fending off against antibiotics. That is the only thing that worries me, is that this is the drug resistant strain being passed to one another in the form of a cough..



posted on Nov, 1 2008 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by ashley-tron
This really scares me as I have been sick for about two weeks and went to the hospital because I couldn't breathe. Was told I have pneumonia and was put on doxycyclin for almost ten days now and I still wake up not being able to breath and end up coughing up a lung. I thought something weird was going on when I was seeing a lot of people in the hospital with the same symptoms as me, but then again it is flu season.



Just want to set the record straight about TB, but first, let me ask ashley why they gave you doxycycline? That is not an approved medication for pneuomonia. I would have prescribed Levaquin, or Rocephin, or another antibiotic specifically targeted for pneumonias..

Now, on to TB. As someone has previously posted, Tuberculosis is a bacteria, specifically an acid-fast bacteria. It is very slow growing and requires an extended course of antibiotics to treat. TB has been with us for thousands of years. In the 1800's many people died of "consumption", which is TB. A healthy person can contract the disease, and it will lie dormant for years, not infectious and not transmittable. The only way that it can be detected in this stage is by a skin test. A positive TB skin test simply means that you have been exposed in the past, and have the antibodies for TB.

Active TB is confirmed by an AFB (Acid fast bacteria) sputum culture. If it is positive, it means that you have a confirmed case of active TB. MDR and XMDR TB has come about because the treatment for TB is a mutiple course of 3-6 antibiotics for at least a year. Many people (especially those that are in poor health in the first place, i.e. homeless, nursing home patients, prisoners) do not take the entire course of medications. This gives rise to resistant strains of TB. Once you have had 3 clean AFB smears in a row, you are considered cured of TB. You will still care the antibodies for the rest of your life, and will test positive on the skin test.

The reason why TB isn't a good choice for bacterialogical weapons is obvious. It won't affect healthy people for a long time, if ever; it is killed by ultraviolet radiation; and it is extremely difficult to grow and reproduce due to its extensive growth time. You must be exposed to a person with TB in a closed space for longer than a few minutes to actually catch TB.

The U.S. government (and possibly other governments) can detain people with active TB in treatment centers until the disease is no longer contagious. In fact, the TB sanitariums of the early 20th century in the US are prime examples of this (until the antibiotic streptomycin was invented).

Other examples of acid fast bacteria include meningococcal meningitis and Hansen's disease (Leprosy). No, you can't get Leprosy if you have TB.

Hope that this helps.



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