Good for you. My best buddy's name was Johnny Avila when I was a kid.
Don't even go there with your lame attempt at painting me resentful of illegal aliens.
I wasn't trying to. I was trying to make sense as to why you even brought up the topic of illegal aliens into this discussion. You implied that this
group of people could and would be used by our government to round up detractors. I just tried to paint a picture about how illogical that rationale
Then tell them to stay home and fix their own country. And don't tell them to jump in front of the line of people who have been following the laws
and waiting in line for citizenship.
This is a bad misunderstanding of the current US Naturalization Laws. Currently the wait to even be considered
for a green card is three years.
This wait almost never shortens, and indeed it only grows longer annually because of the number seeking lawful immigration and the lack of resources
to handle this number.
If you finally become considered for naturalization, you are normally turned away unless you already have a trade or skill and experience. Even then,
you are expected to already have a job waiting for you if you are given a green card. If not, too bad, you're long wait was for nothing and you are
turned back to Mexico.
The only way to be considered for lawful immigration is if you have a lawful spouse living within US borders or you are chosen as a part of the USIS
I wouldn't put up with it. Tell them to fix it. Don't bring that crap into our country. Guess what? Not every illegal is a hard-working nice
guy. Some of those druggies are here also.
This is just an ignorant and bigoted statement, and I shouldn't even waste my time with it. There's just a better part of me who wants to try and
persuade one's thinking away from such beliefs if at all possible.
First of all, I understand there is a mix of the good and the bad when it comes to illegal immigrants. Guess what though? There are a higher number of
'druggies' already living within the US. And for some this way of life is all they have ever known, thanks to the CIA, the War on
Drugs, and the subsequent massive, politically funded Drug Cartels running Mexico from behind the scenes.
Telling them to go fix this problem is the same as telling us to go up to the Bush White House and tell them to withdraw from all war theaters. It
hasn't worked in the past, and it won't work in the future. Do you think they honestly haven't tried to fix the problems of their home country? Or
do you think their first resort was just to hightail it North and forget about their friends and relatives who can't or refuse to move to America?
Let me explain...
This is more flawed reasoning, and the two subjects aren't to be handled as one. Immigration reform and unemployment crises aren't one in the same.
Just because we have an immigration problem doesn't mean we put the blame of unemployment on them. Its like how parents get mad at video game makers
for creating violent games. Who's fault was it that the game got into their child's hands in the first place?
Either way I'm done with this thread, this has obviously devolved into a debate over topics that don't even pertain to subject matter at hand. This
is just another 'alarmist' thread spouting fear and ignorance over a number of issues, some of which we understand, some of which we don't.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion about what Obama's plan could mean. Its just aggravating when the first notions that appear in this thread try
to tie such ideals to Nazism or Authoritarianism and label them as truth. Its equally frustrating when people go off on a tangent about other issues
entirely and try to somehow reason them together as one.
If you feel obligated feel free to post your retort to this post, just keep in mind I won't waste any more of my time in this topic.