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Originally posted by BluegrassRevolutionary
I am pretty sure this is why the active duty brigade was brought home from Iraq, to quell the violence that may erupt in the aftermath of this election. Given that it was the Bush administration that brought them home, one may have some insight as to who will ultimately win the election. Lets hope that this prophecy does not prove accurate.
By the way, exit polling was, many times over in the past, used to legitimize elections. That was until, in 2000, Bush was allowed to take office despite the fact that the discrepancies b/w the exit poll results and the actual results showed that there was a 1 in 250 million chance that he won legitimately.
IMO, comparing exit polls to actual election results is accurate and should be used to legitimize elections. The problem is that the 2000 election kind of ruined the perceived credibility of this exact science. Just another example of the damage done by the Bush administrations time in office.
[edit on 21-10-2008 by BluegrassRevolutionary]
[edit on 21-10-2008 by BluegrassRevolutionary]
Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
reply to post by jd140
Thank you. People conviently forget the attacks by terrorists that occured on US Citizens during the Clinton Administration. bin Laden wouldn't have been around to mastermind 9/ll if Clinton had been willing to give the order to pull the trigger.
And if we really want to keep placing blame, let's just go back to the Pilgrims whose goal was to build a "shining city on a hill." If they'd stayed in England or Holland, the Native Americans would be happy, the country would be unspoiled, we wouldn't have global warming, and we'd be in Eden. (Heavy Sarcasm!)
Originally posted by Karlhungis
This has turned into such a nasty election, I really wonder how the losing side will respond.
Currently, Obama supporters think that they have such a strong lead that any loss would certainly be election fraud.
A McCain 'Win' Will Be Theft, Resistance Is Planned
mwcnews.net...
McCain Campaign Caught in Conspiracy to Commit Voter Fraud - Hires Voter Fraud Convicted Felon for $175k
/5sw2vj
Meanwhile, McCain and his supporters are doing their best to tie Obama to Acorn. They are laying the groundwork for being able to dispute the results of the election if they are to lose.
Barack Obama's ACORN Tree
www.gop.com...
McCain Camp Drives Obama-ACORN Connection
elections.foxnews.com...
And the media is now telling us that we can't accept the data from the exit polls either.
News outlets sweat over exit poll accuracy - Yahoo! News
news.yahoo.com...
If Obama wins, many McCain supporters will feel that the country is about to be led by a socialist, with ties to terrorism, who hates America and just stole the election.
If McCain wins, many Obama supporters will feel that the election was just stolen by a hate filled, short tempered Republican that probably won't survive his term and will have a hate filled idiot to fill in his shoes after he dies.
The scary thing is, one of these groups is going to lose. Which one do you think will handle it better? Do you think either side will simply accept defeat?
I think it could get very ugly, regardless of which side wins.
Originally posted by BluegrassRevolutionary
reply to post by jd140
Look man, face it, Bush was a horrible disgrace of a president and anyone who voted for him should be ashamed and re-evaluate the decision process that led them to vote for the worst president in American history. Why is it that when put in a corner by the facts, Republicans all too often change the subject and spout their gripes about Clinton. I said nothing about a 9/11 or the war in Iraq, my comment related to how the 2000 election, and the voter fraud that occurred in America, destroyed the credibility of exit polling. By the way, if you are not a Republican, I apologize for insinuate you were. Still though, try to address the issue at hand and don't change the subject.
As far as why Clinton did not take action against Bin Laden when he had the chance, to my understanding Clinton felt there was too great a chance of civilian casualties to pursue a military attack. I am sure had he known what was to occur on 9/11, he would have put those concerns aside and bombed the heck out of where ever Bin Laden was at the time.
I blame Bush for what has happened over the last eight years because when Clinton left office, America was still "that shining city on the hill."
[edit on 21-10-2008 by BluegrassRevolutionary]
[edit on 21-10-2008 by BluegrassRevolutionary]
Originally posted by BluegrassRevolutionary
reply to post by jd140
Look man, face it, Bush was a horrible disgrace of a president and anyone who voted for him should be ashamed and re-evaluate the decision process that led them to vote for the worst president in American history. Why is it that when put in a corner by the facts, Republicans all too often change the subject and spout their gripes about Clinton. I said nothing about a 9/11 or the war in Iraq, my comment related to how the 2000 election, and the voter fraud that occurred in America, destroyed the credibility of exit polling. By the way, if you are not a Republican, I apologize for insinuate you were. Still though, try to address the issue at hand and don't change the subject.
As far as why Clinton did not take action against Bin Laden when he had the chance, to my understanding Clinton felt there was too great a chance of civilian casualties to pursue a military attack. I am sure had he known what was to occur on 9/11, he would have put those concerns aside and bombed the heck out of where ever Bin Laden was at the time.
I blame Bush for what has happened over the last eight years because when Clinton left office, America was still "that shining city on the hill."
[edit on 21-10-2008 by BluegrassRevolutionary]
[edit on 21-10-2008 by BluegrassRevolutionary]
Originally posted by BluegrassRevolutionary
reply to post by jd140
Look man, face it, Bush was a horrible disgrace of a president and anyone who voted for him should be ashamed and re-evaluate the decision process that led them to vote for the worst president in American history. Why is it that when put in a corner by the facts, Republicans all too often change the subject and spout their gripes about Clinton. I said nothing about a 9/11 or the war in Iraq, my comment related to how the 2000 election, and the voter fraud that occurred in America, destroyed the credibility of exit polling. By the way, if you are not a Republican, I apologize for insinuate you were. Still though, try to address the issue at hand and don't change the subject.
As far as why Clinton did not take action against Bin Laden when he had the chance, to my understanding Clinton felt there was too great a chance of civilian casualties to pursue a military attack. I am sure had he known what was to occur on 9/11, he would have put those concerns aside and bombed the heck out of where ever Bin Laden was at the time.
I blame Bush for what has happened over the last eight years because when Clinton left office, America was still "that shining city on the hill."
[edit on 21-10-2008 by BluegrassRevolutionary]
[edit on 21-10-2008 by BluegrassRevolutionary]
Originally posted by Vitchilo
But the whole Obama cult is just scary.
Originally posted by BluegrassRevolutionary
reply to post by jd140
My bad.
I will give you that politicians on both sides of the isle are corrupt. We have our system of campaign finance to thank for that. However, you will never see me let Bush off the hook for the damage he has done to this country, its people, and our standing in the world. January 1st can not come soon enough.
Originally posted by jibeho
You need to move on with this weak argument that anyone who voted for Bush should be ashamed. I voted for Bush in the last election because I felt he was the best man for the job. I am not ashamed. THis is how the system works. You clearly have a double standard. You can blame everything on Bush but shame on anyone who tries to hold Clinton accountable for his shortcomings in a less than stellar presidency.
You clearly did not pay attention in your High School Civics class. You should be holding congress responsible for our recent woes in this country. Especially the last two years of a Democrat controlled congress who loves to spend money on themselves.
Back to the main topic... I have an eerie feeling that there will be trouble on the streets if either candidate wins. The trouble will start at the polling stations.
Originally posted by jd140
Don't let Bush off the hook, however do not let the rest of the government off that same hook. Bush could not have done what has been done without the support of the majority of the government. Thats how our system is run, by majority vote.