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Iran: McCain's 'Bomb Bomb Iran' Joke Could Be America's 'Nightmare'

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posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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McCain's has had two distasteful jokes about Iran. The "Bomb Iran" song and then he joked about "Poisoning the Iranian's cigarette supply". Jokes referring to dropping bombs and biological attacks really disturbs me.

He's trying to intensify the situation. If any more jokes referring to harming another nation, we need to drop him of in the middle of that country and tell him to fend for hiself. You don't make diplomacy by disquising threats. Which is evident he is doing.

Pretty much IMO if I was at the end of such jokes in such a tense situation I would take it as a direct threat and prepare to protect my people.




posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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Oh, that's right, Iran will just sit quietly and wait for three months whilst you slowly build up your Army Divisions on their border.

Iran isn't Iraq. get that through your skull. If they saw as much as a hint that the US was building it's forces up for a strike, they'd be screaming blue murder and would eventually hit you before you're ready.

The US Army hasn't faced a competant enemy in a long time, but the Iranians are not the camel riding suicide bombers you seem to think they are. They have a large, fairly well equipped and well motivated military.

Iraq was a cake walk because the enemy was either bribed, ran away due to low morale or couldn't even get enough tanks working due to a lack of parts! Iran won't be like that.

You also had three months, unmolested, to build up your forces and just strolled in. Iran won't be like that.

Iran also has something Iraq didn't have.

Friends.

More importantly, friends with money and an axe to grind....



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 05:44 PM
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Any country with this kind of power trip must be stopped, period.
I am not american and I can see my country population starting make a big leap into changing the status of USA from "friendly" nation to something else... and to be honest who could blame us?



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 05:51 PM
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Even us americans can see that.
The problem is how do you stop a 10,000 pound monster on a rampage...
All of this is highly off-topic though.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 06:23 PM
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It's nice to see that the Iranians can take a joke!

Because alot of liberal Americans can't.

Remember when Reagan announced "The bombing starts in 5 minutes"? Remember how many coronaries liberals had over that line?


Why can't liberals take a joke for what it is? I guess it's all who is telling the joke.



posted on Oct, 15 2008 @ 07:22 PM
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We all know McCain's hatred towards Iran. Theres plenty of tension between the U.S and Iran, theres no need to add fuel to the fire.

Knock-Knock jokes are funny, jokes about attacking another nation are not. One joke may have been fine, but there has more. So there is some truth behind these jokes.

You don't make jokes about poisoning and bombing an enemy we are at the brink of war with. Its funny how you point fingers at the dems, like its like we are overreacting. Making horrible jokes like his not only make him look bad but also the American people. Anybody who accepts these jokes should volunteer for the frontline if we were to go to war with Iran since you think McCain is a good comedian. He was trying to provoke and he has suceeded.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:30 AM
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It's nice to see that the Iranians can take a joke!

Because alot of liberal Americans can't.


The reason us "lib-ruhlz" can't take a joke......is because BOMBING PEOPLE IS NOT FUNNY. The minute a bunch of guys sitting around in Iran, can crack jokes about suicide bombers walking into a bar.....

And you think it's funny.....

....that they want to kill you....

Because of incendiary remarks about bombing them, we are going to be the bad guy....AGAIN. I don't need to be lumped in as one of these flag waving yokals....who don't have the decency to realize that people don't like being threatened with being bombed.

I don't like being threatened with anything. Do you??

It's not a joke.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by dlongwell547

To me, McCain getting the nomination is very, very suspicious. Most 'conservatives' cannot stand him, there is something funny going on. Now it appears that he is pretty much throwing the whole race against Obama. They are both criminals and they both are going to push this country off the edge we are dangerously teetering on.


I've said it before, I'll say it again:

McCain was picked to lose.

The USA is on the brink right now, from just about every way you want to look at it. Things are bad. And they're getting worse.

In January 2009, the IMF will audit the USA's books, for the first time. That's the final nail in the economic coffin.

Whoever gets elected will be a one-term president, unless they are an absolute miracle worker. Christ in Armani kind of thing.

If they fail - and you've got to admit, the immediate future is not looking too bright - they're out. If things go really badly in either of America's two wars or at home on the economic front, it's absolutely over for that party for a generation or more.

He's not there to become president. He's there so the Republican party can sweep up in two years, and again in 4.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by SectionEight
There isn't a damn thing Iran could do if we bombed them so their threat is really silly. Would they openly attack Isreal so Isreal has a legitimate excuse to shove a nuke up their rearend? Or maybe they would cause trouble in Iraq....no they already are doing that so that would be nothing new. Would they try to manipulate the oil market...no they are already doing that too. What is this new consequence we would face if we did decide to bomb them?


I have read no further, because that quote just about sums up how I for one now regard America.............gung ho and not give a damn.

SectionEight my question to is.

Do you realise that Opec hold the American economy within its hands, if they decide to use this Ace they are holding and raise the price of oil then America will be worse off than it was in the 30's and so will be the rest of the western world.

So what do you suggest, attacking all of the Opec nations so they surrender so the USA can carry on as before??

The more likely scenario would be nukes, as in well if we (the USA) cannot have it / get it, then neither shall they.............3 2 1 BOOM!!!!

Wolfie



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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I have read no further, because that quote just about sums up how I for one now regard America.............gung ho and not give a damn.

Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaassee don't lump us all in with these kind of people!! This is a big country with cities, sure.....and vast expanses full of uneducated.....misinformed.......idiotic humans.

We are not ALL cowboys from Texas (sorry Texans but I kinda blame Bush on you).



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Wolfie_UK
I have read no further, because that quote just about sums up how I for one now regard America.............gung ho and not give a damn.



Wow, what an unusual attitude for a Brit


America's worst nightmare by the way will be the adoption of a neo-socialist mentality, just like the one you have in the UK, it's a far bigger risk to our way of life than Iran could ever be.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 04:24 PM
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The bottom line is America has a history of violence. We tend to flex are mussles to intimidate and financial gain for those who pull the strings. This is not propaganda or my being anti-america but fact. We have a government that has used false flag operations just to pull us into conflicts.

We are a war loving nation! Support our troops while they defend us against suicide bombing terrorists. See what that does? Makes you believe that every Middle Eastern country is a threat against the American people. I support our troops but not the agenda.

So what I'm trying to get at is this. With all the conflicts we have created or joined in on, this country now has an image of being the agressor. So the manner of the joke from a man who has made his dislike for Iran very clear should be taken as a direct threat. Tension is running high between the U.S and Iran jokes about poison and bombs should not be tolerated whether you are on the right or left.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 04:45 PM
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When you are in a position of power or attempting to gain a position of power and you make jokes like that about a country we are on bad terms with, it is not funny. Nor is it tasteful. I'm not democratic, republican, or liberal, but war is not funny to me. Killing en masse is not funny to me. Not in this situation.

I like dead baby jokes and Nazi jokes as much as the next guy, but you do not joke about going to war.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by SectionEight
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You really do believe the hate america stuff you spout off. Do you believe for an instant that we would drop one bomb without every contingency covered millitarily? Whole army divisions would organize for months near the Iranian border before we ever started an air war. Look at desert storm and then the recent Iraq conquest. Iran would be obliterated in a matter of days millitarily. Everyone would know war is imminent because of the troop concentrations and buildup.
Iraq was a cakewalk to our millitary and so would Iran be. Iran would even be easier afterwards because there is no neighboring country to interfere like Iran did in Iraq in the aftermath of reconstruction.


post's like these make me worry about the ignorance ripe in our society. Now i will be the first to admit that i don't know anything about Mccain or Obama's policies but like they say 'many a true word are said in jest' and i believe that is what McCain has been doing with the whole bombing iran joke. Unfortunately people who don't know and don't want to know the delicate & precarious situation America currently finds itself will be easily swayed by the 'seeds' planted by this sick sense of humor.

I don't hate America. I don't hate the American people but i sure do hate the way the nation has conducted itself in the International scene. about 6 years ago, people started calling America the 'Policeman' of the world. It's not necessarily a good bad title to have but then things started going downhill from there. The policeman took its authority to its head and slowly friendly states started thinking more carefully about their alliance with this nation. And perhaps the states which were not so friendly openly started being anti-american.

Believe what you want to believe about the war in Iraq but I am sure you will agree that it took our brave soldiers years to bring things under control. Things are still not what they should be like and soldier's continue to be posted there and we suffer casulties.

And Afghanistan - yes, they are camel riding, hut living, nomads - but the war hasn't been won by our gun touting military as yet. And it has been how many years?????

American's are taking solace in the fact that they have the support of Pakistan. The government of that country needs american aid and will continue to support but has anyone bothered going there and talking to its citizens who are tired of corrupt gov's and are being incited by the daily 'invasions' by american soldiers and the large number of bombs which 'miss their targets' and end up killing pakistani civilians. These are the very people who have the potential of rebelling and causing issues for our troops out there. We may take solace in the fact that if things get too out of hand, then we have India to 'stomp' their way into pakistan because of the long standing rivalry. but that in itself is a dangerous thing too... both india and pakistan are nuclear armed nations with a lot of hot heads and egos.... we could possibly see the start of a nuclear war in the region. and what makes one think that the upset civilians of pakistan are not going to rebell to the extent that some gungho idiot sets a nuclear war head on its way to an american base????

then offcourse there is china who has been a strong supporter of pakistan since day one, and has been waiting for an opportunity to show up the united states and demonstrate their military prowess.... while we are at it, what about russia???????
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... so what's this you were saying about Iran being a CAKEWALK especially with no neighbouring countries to upset the balance??????


p.s. I haven't even started on the Arab support that Iran will enlist.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 08:03 PM
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Starters, GW is running the show. He had no backup plan for Iraq, so dont go on about how the military planning is A class.
Secondly,

Do you really think we are going to prepare, enmass a huge force on the border before an air campaign?

Can anyone say '' surprise ''

If we strike Iran you twit, they arent going to just sit there and take it.
In case you havent noticed, Iran have never launched a war, Iran has never been defeated. Iran have good military technology.
Iran is HUGE, and is FULL of people willing to die for their country.

And incase you havent noticed, the US military is close to breaking.
Its morale and confidence is sapped, and its being drained rapidly.
The US economy is faltering, and the middle east doesnt trust nor back America.

How on Earth do you possibly believe Iran wouldnt retaliate?



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 08:23 PM
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wait wait wait

the guy says awakened from their sleep and facing a nightmare, how could they face a nightmare if they are already awake, it just doesnt make any sense, their trying to confuse us

maybe they want to wake us up from our dream and then use biological weapons to put us back to sleep in the state of a nightmare, omg, the water system has probably already been tampered with, were all going to die...go to sleep, noooo

but seriously that guy has got to get his lines straight



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
reply to post by SectionEight
 


Starters, GW is running the show. He had no backup plan for Iraq, so dont go on about how the military planning is A class.
Secondly,

Do you really think we are going to prepare, enmass a huge force on the border before an air campaign?

Can anyone say '' surprise ''


If we strike Iran you twit, they arent going to just sit there and take it.
In case you havent noticed, Iran have never launched a war, Iran has never been defeated. Iran have good military technology.
Iran is HUGE, and is FULL of people willing to die for their country.

And incase you havent noticed, the US military is close to breaking.
Its morale and confidence is sapped, and its being drained rapidly.
The US economy is faltering, and the middle east doesnt trust nor back America.

How on Earth do you possibly believe Iran wouldnt retaliate?


Iran simply doesn't have anything to retaliate with in a full blown war.
Iran doesn't have squat millitarily and they couldn't even defeat Saddam. They had to send in waves of unarmed teenagers to clear the minefields with their bodies, there's real modern warfare for ya, lol.
China couldn't land one of it's billion soldiers over the himalyas without their air transport fleet being annihilated out of the sky and nobody will get a navy transport through. China would take advantage in other ways like taking Tawain.
Russia won't send troops to Iran, they would invade the former estern block nations in a free for all. Would be an even trade off.
Opec nations will starve without imports and oil trade, if Iran instigates a regional war they would suffer far worse by taking their side and jacking up oil prices. Before war they like to use it for leverage but when the excrement hits the fan, that leverage is gone and they will play nice with the winning side as all arabs have always done throughout history.
A great beneficial side effect would be that the Iranian backed terrorists next to Isreal would be isolated and cut off from any future reinforcement or funding.



posted on Oct, 17 2008 @ 12:48 AM
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The IRAN war was over 20yrs ago, technology has made leaps and bounds since.
As far as im aware, Iran has

submarines
battleships
cruise missiles

theyve even put stuff in Space.

Now, Iran are perfectly nestled in mountains, meaning their anti ship, anti air missiles would be damn near impossible to find and destory before they launched on the gulf waters, and air attacks.

secondly, Iran has quite large missiles capable of striking Israel, and Iraq.

and if the IRAN war proves anything, its that millions of Iranians are willing to die for their independance.

Now, after watching Iraq be occupied, im certain many Iranians would rather die, than live under American rule.

Do not kid yourself, Iran is not a stupid nation.
They arent sitting there defensless, and they sure as hell arent sitting there doing nothing.

My bet is, they are wound so tight, with so much offensive weaponary prepared and aimed... the second something strikes them, they will launch a massive attack on anyone assisting or involved.


think about this,
Iran are faced with

''destruction''
or
''Occupation''
Being occupation damn near equals destruction, and western troops on Irans soild would be considered a massive sin in Koran terms..im pretty sure they are going to die with a fight.

but, if your so sure of their inability to strike.. you'll be on the front lines then eh?
I sure as hell wouldnt, because you'd be as good as dead!



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 03:17 PM
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Section eight .You are damn fool. Do you have any idea how much Russian kit Iran has ? Its sunburn/ yakonts misiles are capable of mach 4+
and would easily wipe out the US fleet if you were stupid enough to invade . The russians are not going to stand idly by if the US invades yet another soveriegn territory to prop up your dying republic .

Never ever underestimate the Russians and their technology ,especially not now .




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