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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Sorry, but a friend of mine who was there, is not hearsay to me. Especially when the man is still dealing with the nightmares over it.
"I did see airplane seats and a corpse still strapped to one of the seats."
–Capt. Jim Ingledue, Virginia Beach Fire Dept
Staff Sgt. Mark Williams of the Military District of Washington Engineer Company at Fort Belvoir also later says: “Ironically, we were conducting classes about rescue techniques when we were told of the planes hitting the World Trade Center.” Williams’ team is one of the first response groups to arrive at the site of the Pentagon crash and one of the first to enter the building following the attack.
Mark Willams: "When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him. 'It was the worst thing you can imagine,' said Williams, whose squad from Fort Belvoir, Va., entered the building, less than four hours after the terrorist attack. 'I wanted to cry from the minute I walked in. But I have soldiers under me and I had to put my feelings aside.'
"Early Friday morning, shortly before 4 a.m., Carlton Burkhammer and another firefighter, Brian Moravitz, were combing through debris near the impact site. Peering at the wreckage with their helmet lights, the two spotted an intact seat from the plane’s cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached. Then they saw two odd-shaped dark boxes, about 1.5 by 2 feet long. They’d been told the plane’s “black boxes” would in fact be bright orange, but these were charred black. The boxes had handles on one end and one was torn open."
Originally posted by pccat
reply to post by Hal9000
its painfully obvious that there is no official documentation for bodies being found still strapped into their seats.. but that in itself does not make it false.. this is another irreconcilable debate.. (I have googled my butt off looking for documentation..)
the real questions should be why would this detail matter? what is the OP focusing on and why? realistically weather or not there were bodies still strapped to seats is irrelevant, when taken in the context of the bodies possibly being planted..
seems to me that a lot of "un-orthodox" investigating was done that day.. lots of standard operation procedures were thrown out.. however, I find this to be quite understandable.. considering that those on site, probably had no reason to treat this as an accident scene.. as we were informed that this was a terrorist attack..
as a side note one point was made, (and subsequently ignored)..
the hypothesis that a plane traveling 500mph or so stopping in 40 feet, would have different characteristics than that of a plane traveling 300 or so feet.. or simply put: a more gradual deceleration.. and anything and everything on the plane would experience the same g-forces.. bodies included..
and yes by all means please stop the back and forth name calling.. this has been getting ridiculous~pccat