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Topic started on 13-10-2008 @ 02:50 PM by Harlequin
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Funding cuts by lawmakers have doomed a hypersonic project named Blackswift that was to develop a long-awaited successor to the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird.

The fiscal 2009 defence budget approved last month slashes requested spending for the Mach 6-capable Blackswift Test Bed project from $120 million to $10 million.


now either this is going black or is really being killed off.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:35 PM by FredT
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Its possible, also could be for a future bomber ?????


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:47 PM by FredT
Originally posted by waynos
I don't remember the F-117 being open at all until the 'dodgy perspective' photo came out about 1987, by which time production was already (as good as?) over.


The inital program was not.


In 1974, the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) initiated a program known as PROJECT HARVEY, after a well-known comedy about an invisible giant rabbit, that requested designs of an "experimental survivable testbed (XST)" aircraft with a low RCS.

Lockheed was not among the companies contacted by DARPA with this request, but in 1975 Ben Rich, an engineer who had worked on the secret Lockheed U-2 and SR-71 reconnaissance aircraft, got wind of the project and lobbied the government successfully to have Lockheed included.

Rich had the services of two Lockheed employees, mathematician Bill Schroeder and computer scientist Denys Overholser, to work on the XST program. Schroeder realized that it would be much easier to compute RCS if the shape of an aircraft could be reduced to a set of flat surfaces, or "facets". Schroeder approached Overholser with the idea, and within five weeks Overholser had written a computer program named "Echo I" that could determine the RCS of a "faceted" aircraft. Armed with Echo I, Schroeder came up with an initial XST design that he called the "Hopeless Diamond", and handed Ben Rich a sketch of it in May 1975.
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* Interestingly, up to this time PROJECT HARVEY was not a secret program, and in fact had been mentioned in the aerospace press. When the Carter Administration took office in early 1977, Bill Perry, an influential defense undersecretary for research and engineering and later defense secretary in the Clinton Administration, learned of how dramatic the results of the model tests had been.

Perry immediately saw to it that program became secret. Responsibility was transferred from the mostly-civilian DARPA to the USAF Special Projects Office, and funding was increased. Orders went out stating that the word "stealth" was not be used in unclassified documents, and the program was assigned a meaningless two-word codename: HAVE BLUE.
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:58 PM by Jay-in-AR
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Bombers aren't built to survive dogfights. They are built to be extremely hard to detect.

Doesn't matter anyhow, the F-35 has plenty of bomber capability, it is hypersonic and it is stealth.



reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 05:08 PM by Zaphod58
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Uhm, what? The F-35 is a TACTICAL bomber, which means that it carries a tiny bomb load. One of the loadouts is going to be 2 x 2000lb bombs. Wow. As a bomb truck the F-35 will be somewhere between the F/A-18 and the F-111. That's hardly a huge loadout. The F-35B can only carry two 1,000lb class weapons internally. If you go external you lose stealth, and even with external weapons, you're not going to get a huge loadout.

As for being hypersonic, uh no. You DO know what hypersonic is right? The ONLY hypersonic aircraft currently being flown are UAVs that are used for testing, and they require a rocket assist to get fast enough to engage the engines used to go hypersonic.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 05:35 PM by Jay-in-AR
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Yes, the 35 carries a "tiny" load, as you put it. But apparently we have enough of them to sell them to foreign nations now. Plus, they're stealth. Multiple, nearly undetected sorties putting smart payloads on any target, anywhere on the planet.
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