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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 10:16 PM by TXRabbit
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Truckers only have to worry about keeping their tanks filled and their insurance paid up. If they manager their finances responsibly they'll have
no problems as they're usually paid for the loads they haul within 15-21 days of delivery. The problem I can see happening in the transportation
industry is with the shippers and the brokers that book them. Those are the guys that operate off of credit.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 10:17 PM by etombo
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This is so frustrating.. Every time I try to figure out a way out of this it seems that I turn into a socialist.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 10:21 PM by Mr Knowledge
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Okay, if we're not headed for a great depression oh great one, tell us please, What the hell ARE we headed for???????????
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 10:45 PM by Awakened_One
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Thank You So Much Power_Semi..
This Makes it so much clear , so that those people that play the blame game understand whats going on...
I must get this out of my chest because it sickens me to think that people can think this way but actually some people NOW are blaming everything on
the Illegal Aliens , I DONT KNOW any Illegal Alien but from what I have seen they are the most humble people and certainly they don't sit around in
offices cashing big money with out knowing how to put up a wall or build the famous houses that people now are dying to own...
They do the work that most people here in American Won't and most important CAN'T do for a little pay check on top of that these people come to work
not to do DRUGS like some many people born here do....
If people keep blaming the poor like this then I will be one of those people that sit around and start laughing saying, they(those that blame without
having a clue of what's happening) had this coming for being so racist...
But thats not me I am humble myself, dont force me to chance with radical statements like that.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 11:09 PM by son of PC
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As Dick Cheney so eloquently said it, "So"? Take care----------------PC
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 11:14 PM by stander
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Originally posted by cpdaman
what happens when the trucker can't use his commerical credit for loading up the 18 wheeler with food for delivery to the grocery store?
Runs the red light, gets a ticket -- and his AIG insurance premium goes up.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 12:05 AM by karamazov feodor
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When the president comes out in public and says this is bad, the is ten times
worse then he lets us to believe. I dont want to be a conspiray creep, but in my country ( Romania that is) i have learned that te ones that have the
power are the rich people, and i think that aplies to the entire world. I have come to this conclusion becasuse in my country the coruption is in your
face, they dont buder to hide that like in most civilesed countryes were they least keap a level of apearence and deacency. But as i informed my self
even more i had come to the conlusion that in the hole world is the same, those who have the money control everything, including gouverments. Thats
why i believe that this is a generated crisis, not just something that happened. The ones that will not be affected by this are the one who have
liquid money, not invested in land, shares and so on, for example donald trump must be in pain right now, but i dont care. If you want to find out who
is responsible for this just do some search and find out who are the persons with most money IN CASH. In my opinion, i think this will last a some
time, but things will eventually come back to normal, but i wouldnt be suprised if it dose not happen that away. Only one thing is for sure THE ONES
WHO HAVE THE POWER WILL HAVE EVEN MORE.
PS. sorry for my bad english
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 12:54 AM by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
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These "swaps" were total BS. They are why we are in this mess..Good post
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 12:56 AM by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
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No big deal you spell better than I do most of the time....I agree, and it has always been like that. There are haves and have nots. There are just
too many of each right now...It will correct itself and the rich will get richer. While the rest go back to cleaning their bathrooms. Just the way of
the world.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 01:33 AM by Teeky
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Okay besides the great info giving in this post. Does anyone else sense that the whole Financial Crisis is a complete fraud? And when I say fraud I
mean like totally made up like 911 so that the powers that be can excute some other huge plan? Something isn't right. It's like when we were forced
to watch Britney or Paris every night to distract us. But Maybe I'm leaning too much to the conspiracy side.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 02:02 AM by Dbriefed
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Originally posted by Power_Semi
Around the world, banks must comply with what are known as Basel II regulations. These regulations determine how much capital a bank must maintain
in reserve. The rules are based on the quality of the bank's loan book. The riskier the loans a bank owns, the more capital it must keep in reserve.
Bank managers naturally seek to employ as much leverage as they can, especially when interest rates are low, to maximize profits. AIG appeared to
offer banks a way to get around the Basel rules, via unregulated insurance contracts, known as credit default swaps.
ORIGINAL SOURCE
www.kitco.com...
[edit on 9-10-2008 by Power_Semi]
www.federalreserve.gov...
Looks like we've been broke since January
Federal Reserve document dated October 9, 2008
AGGREGATE RESERVES OF DEPOSITORY INSTITUTIONS AND THE MONETARY BASE
Adjusted for changes in reserve requirements(1)
Seasonally adjusted unless noted otherwise
Millions of dollars
Date . . Nonborrowed . . Required
2007
Sep . . 41101 . . 40934
Oct . . 42182 . . 40977
Nov . . 42258 . . 40927
Dec . . 27244 . . 40905
2008
Jan . . -3510 . . 40509
Feb . . -17353 . . 41080
Mar . . -50232 . . 41313
Apr . . -91847 . . 41719
May . . -111647 . . 42122
June . . -127905 . . 41100
July . . -122316 . . 41371
Aug . . -123492 . . 42599
Sep . . -187309 . . 42745
Source: www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h3/Current/
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 02:08 AM by alienesque
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dax and ftse down 10% in 6 minutes
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 02:10 AM by Dbriefed
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Whoops, forgot to add October. It more than doubles September.
Date . . Nonborrowed . . Required
Oct. . . -363136 . . 43879
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 03:12 AM by stander
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reply to post by karamazov feodor
Feodor, do you remember how Ceausescu appeared on the balcony back in 1989 before the crowd? Here, the president would never make a mistake like that.
It's all TV speeches uninterrupted by boos from the listening crowd. The way folks get screwed here has been perfected over the long years. Among
other things, you bullsh-t the folks with perfect, collegiate English and a smile.
Here's the list of the super-rich, power-wielding individuals:
www.forbes.com...
Feodor, we must spare Bill Gates: No Gates, no Windows, no freedom of speech, no cyber forums where we can bitch out our minds all the way to a mental
asylum.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 07:49 AM by HooHaa
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Thnx for the explanation op.
I love how Bush sr was the first to use the term NWO. Now in the last year of his sons 2nd and last term the bottom falls out of the market. This is
an opportunity for the elite to consolidate wealth.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:40 AM by Graber
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The only thing I have to say is, bulk up on the gold and silver while you still can and hope this blows over.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:27 AM by bigvig316
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There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to
call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.
- Richard Feynman
Trillions of dollars have been lost in the the market in the past few day, but it is okay because they never really existed anyways. In the fractional
banking system that the Fed uses, there is really only enough cash to cover 3% of all the currency in the world. Most loans are made on imaginary
money and with this melt down we really didn't lose anything. Just a lot of people losing imaginary money and their imaginary wealth. Economic fall
out is going to long hard and painful and lets hope we can walk away from this a little wiser and a little more weary of the stock market.
Going back to the quote, they had to add a 1 to the front of the national debt ticker in time square. Is it absurd that we have created more money
then there are stars in the heavens. Can we even begin to comprehend how much physical currency that would take. I am sure we could fill up the Sears
tower and still need to find a place put the rest of it.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 10:04 AM by alienesque
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just been to get my cash out of citibank...i got mine...the lady next to me was told that she couldnt have hers as that was it....none left..she wasnt
happy at all...
seems i got lucky..
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 10:17 AM by Power_Semi
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The credit default swaps auction is on for the Lehman stuff - first offers 9.75% - ie, under 10c in the $ or a 90.25% loss for the sellers.
Now if the insurers can't pay up either then it has a knock on effect, more downgrading, write offs, & busts .... but what are the chances of that
happening
PS, final result is around 2pm US time.
PPS I think thats around a $350 - $400 Billion loss.
PPPS there are apparently more sellers than buyers which could make it worse.
www.reuters.com...
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