First, R. Buckminster Fuller came up with the Zeitgeist vision many decades ago, calling it a 'Design Science Revolution'. Like the Zeitgeist
Movement, he did not call for any force to be used to create it, but just a change of mind through education and popular support.
Only a good means can create a good end.
Let those who object to the Zeitgeist Movement's vision propose something better. (if they can see through their fear of everything, anyway)
As for waiting a few hundred years... sorry, we don't have that time. Adapt or Die is the real law of Nature, and humans have been abusive of Nature
for too long already. The current Mass Extinction Event is completely man made, and we could be caught up in it just as easily as the Dinosaurs were
caught up in their extinction. In fact, if it gets bad enough, we certainly will be.
Fear is the mindkiller and the mindbinder and the vision blurrer....
Nobody cares about anyone's religion, except those who have power in those religions who would gladly kill anyone who disagrees with them. Look at
the history of religions... It was, for one instance, a Pope who said, "Kill them all and let God sort them out'. and thousands were slaughtered.
Jesus, btw, forbid praying in crowds and in public. But who cares, right, Christians? Look in your bible and stop listening to preachers!
Nobody I know condemns the teachings of the source teachers of religions, only the dogma that has grown up around those teachings, which, like
Christianity, have become cycles of Pius horror and slaughter.
I love Jesus. I love all the heavy teachers in the past. They all taught the same stuff... 'take care of each other'.
Which is what the Zeitgeist Movement is all about.
I don't think many of the people on this thread really understand much about the Zeitgeist Movement's vision. Many of the messages imply or state
things which are really totally NOT part of the vision expressed. Nobody in the Zeitgeist videos said anything about making Laws to suppress anything.
In fact, it is said many times that there will be nothing like LAWs after the Transformation. And that there will be no need for that kind of
I have been part of the vision, although not the Zeitgeist organization, for decades because I caught the possibilities way back when from R.
I have to laugh when I hear someone call it a 'utopia'... To a serf slave in the Dark Ages, middle class living in America would be considered a
The key is learning Universe, which we all have done to some degree in our lives. Everyone here knows more about Nature, Technology, the World, the
Universe, than all the people put together in past generations.
It changes the common assumptions in daily life, even now. You don't 'disbelieve' your car when you get in to drive somewhere, right? Because we
all have common knowledge and agreements as to what a car is, how it works, and how to drive it. And because it is so poorly designed, it destroys our
environment and kills thousands in car wreaks every year. The Zeitgeist movement just wants to run with the common assumptions to a better place,
rather than let economics and power brokers freeze us into global suicide.
Not hard to understand. The details will be evolved as we go, from the common knowledge and agreements of all the people. Nothing is set in stone.
How much subconscious fear do you have in your mind? How much does it 'filter' your perceptions and thoughts? How tight a grip does the money system
and the government have on your opinions? You do realize that to oppose it or agree with it are the same thing, right? It has your mind either way.
I got so much more to say... but I won't, so have at it...