reply to post by ProPeace77
Yes, it is called the constitution of the US. You see, today it is read as a document of limited rights, instead of as a limited government. This
is going to be 1 quick and fast lesson on the constitution, I can go into more detail if you want. The first thing you have to realize is that like
everything else in this world, it's manipulated to hell and back right now.
I guess I'll start with the bill of rights. When the bill of rights was coming about, there were 2 very good arguments being made. On the 1 hand,
some of the people thought the most basic rights should be listed. They feared that if they were not listed, the people could have them taken away.
Good concern. On the other hand, some people didn't want to list them at all. Their concern was that if we listed specific rights, we might
someday be reduced to only those rights. Good concern as well. So the solution that satisfied both of these concerns were the 9th and 10th
The 9th amendment says you can't add an amendment that infringes on a previous given right. The 10th amendment, says that anything not
specifically listed is not the job of the government, and it will be passed down to the states, local communities and finally to the individual.
Each state has a specific list of jobs it has, and if it doesn't pick it up, it goes down to community, and to individual choice.
The job of the federal government is not to manage our lives as it does today. It is only supposed to make sure the states and local communities do
not infringe on the basic listed rights. That is it's job, among the other things in the articles, such as regulating the value of currency(which
it also does not do) to ease trade between states, and for crimes that cross borders etc.
If it is not listed, then the government can't do it. Pretty simple. It is kept small to do a specific job. The individual and communities hold
the greatest amount of power. If you don't like a community, you can easily move to one you do like, such maybe one that mystic might want. But
you aren't forcing other people to do it you see.
So of course, how does the government do what they do today? It's called the general welfare clause. Article 1, section 8. This is the part
of the constitution which actually gives congress the power to provide for the general welfare. But, the amendments themselves are what defines the
general welfare - as in the preamble it states that part of the purpose is to promote the general welfare. By using this loophole, they have
changed it from a document of limited government, to limited rights. As it now thinks it has the power to do anything which can be spun as being for
the good. Welfare, healthcare, bail outs, etc. As these things aren't a right, it's given to only special interest groups etc.
But, what if instead of using the general welfare clause, they actually did it the right way. When they banned alcohol, they had to add it to the
constitution, because they knew they couldn't do things not listed. Today they just do what they want. But what if you took healthcare and
added it as an amendment. Guess what? Automatically applied to everyone, because it is a right. Not a special right, but an equal right for all.
I don't think it's a good idea, and is better handled on a community level(I'll explain why), but that is the proper way to do it.
So take the civil rights movement, where the federal government went down to make sure black folks could vote. That is a legitimate function of the
government. Peoples rights were being trampled on, they have every right as listed to ensure the citizens is given their rights.
Ok, so why is it better for communities to have the power instead of a federal government? Lets take things just down to a state level. If we have
a universal healthcare system, we have 1 system for everyone. That means we have to wait 4-8 years for changes to be made, and we vote on many more
issues. As it is only 1 system, if that system is bad, the entire country is made to suffer. It's difficult to try new things because it's so
On the state and community level, we suddenly have 50 or more programs going. Each working to be the best. When 1 state screws up, the other 49
don't suffer. When that state screws up, it has 49 other programs to look at for fixes, where as with a federal program, you get nothing. When a
program does something good, the other programs can easily adapt to that. Because you don't have all your eggs in 1 basket, you can try more
changes, more often and a variety of things at the same time. But there is more.
On a federal level, your 1 vote is against millions and millions. On a state level, your 1 vote makes up a larger % of the vote. You also vote more
often. This means you can more easily get changes made. Every 2 years, new vote. If you take that down to a community level, it's even more of
a % of the vote. And you can be involved in the local community much more. You can even be a mayor of a town, my grandfather was. The people are
able to go directly to the mayor, unlike a president. And as the mayor lives in the town, he is more likely to actually care about it. And if not,
you can easily take care of that, without "an act of congress".
By doing so, you return the power to the people. Centralized planning removes the power from the people, and gives it to the elite, who don't care
about the individuals. It takes the power away from the people, just like today. The more centralize planning we get, the less freedoms we
Under this system, mystic could form the community mystic wants. And we can choose the community we want. I'd personally be more inclined to a
free market society, but if mystic wanted a more communal society is allowed and fine. The only thing that isn't allowed is to trample on the basic
rights, as then it is the job of the federal government to say no - you can't do that.
I'll be more than happy to go into more detail and answer any questions.