Palin leaves open option of war with Russia

reply to post by Shazam The Unbowed


... I'm not sure I follow you with the whole "soak" thing. Perhaps you should say it in real words and not metaphors.

Governor Palin said "perhaps so" when asked if she would invade Russia if it attacked Georgia. I already said I think the title should be changed, but that's no reason to lock the thread.

It's not mudslinging. It's actually a real thread (unlike the one in your signature that you started). It is based around policy (whether she'd attack Russia).

Again, look up the definition of mudslinger. There's no lying or attacking on this thread. It's something she said and it's attempting to be discussed.

Unfortunately, you're still too busy crying about the fact that you think your party is being punished (when if you'd look at the thread in your own signature you'd see the difference).

Seriously though. Inspect the thread in your signature, and then inspect this one. While I agree the title to the thread should be changed to match the article title, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this thread yet - except for the childish whining.

*Edit to add:

May I point out that this man has a link in his signature to a thread titled: "Does Obama Hate Babies" and he's complaining about partisanship and this thread remaining open.

Wow.

[edit on 12-9-2008 by Sublime620]

Originally posted by Sublime620

Governor Palin said "perhaps so" when asked if she would invade Russia if it attacked Georgia. I already said I think the title should be changed, but that's no reason to lock the thread.

Did she now? Is that an "exact quote" like charlie's was?

It's not mudslinging. It's actually a real thread (unlike the one in your signature that you started). It is based around policy (whether she'd attack Russia).

You mean the thread where I linked to Obamas votes, as well as oral arguments against, a bill that would have stopped doctors from intentionally allowing abortion survivors to die?
I guess if I had Obamas record I would consider showing it to people to be mudslinging too.


But yes it is. Here answer was not "perhpas so" anymore than Obamas recent explantions about his original lipstick comments was "sarah is a tube of lipstick"
but then, I can actually see when a double standard is being enforced, even when its my own side doing it .

Again, look up the definition of mudslinger. There's no lying or attacking on this thread. It's something she said and it's attempting to be discussed.

yes there is
Lieing via omission
Lieing via editing
Thats two different ways this thread is nothign mroe than deceptive mudslinging. But then, you dont really mind slinging, as long as ou get to sling it.

Unfortunately, you're still too busy crying about the fact that you think your party is being punished (when if you'd look at the thread in your own signature you'd see the difference).

Yes, mine, while controversially named, had links to Obamas voting record, senate speeches, and public statements. This one reduces a several sentance explantion to "sure maybe"
Huge difference.

Seriously though. Inspect the thread in your signature, and then inspect this one. While I agree the title to the thread should be changed to match the article title, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this thread yet - except for the childish whining.

uhhuh. Its always childish when you dont want to admit your privelege.

This is how Brits views our current campaign.
(The Brits have a great sense of humor!)
From the London Daily Mail

A pistol-packin' Looby Loo: the Left's worst nightmare

Frank Sinatra would have got the joke. In the words of the great political
philosopher, they all laughed at Christopher Columbus when he said the world
was round.
They're all laughing, too, at John McCain for choosing Sarah Palin as his
running mate. The usual suspects took one look at this pistol-packin' momma
and reacted like John McEnroe to a disputed line call: you cannot be
serious!
Certainly, the pick came, as the Americans say, out of left field. But Sarah
Palin is centre stage now, and suddenly it's game on.
Stern, God-fearin', gun-totin' Sarah Palin. Will she get the last laugh?

At the very least, McCain has got a wonderful sense of mischief - a quality
sadly lacking in most politicians.
The way the Left, both here and in America, are contorting themselves is a
joy to behold. Sarah Palin is every Guardianista's worst nightmare.
It's reminiscent of how they used to patronise Mrs Thatcher 30 years ago.
What did this small-town girl know about anything?
How could any woman expect to run a country and raise a family? What does
she know about foreign affairs?

Of course, they weren't saying that a woman couldn't be Prime Minister, you
understand. Just not this woman.
Shirley Williams would have been fine, but this ghastly, lower middle- class
Snobby Roberts woman from Grantham, of all places - AAARGH!
It's been hilarious watching the sisterhood tie themselves in knots over
Sarah Palin.

They've been in full Glenda Slagg mode - dontcha just hate her, dontcha just
love her?
On the one hand she's a feisty, capable woman shaking up the political
establishment, while juggling a family and career. I don't know how she does
it.
But on the other, she's a Godfearing, gun-totin', good ol' girl. She hunts,
she fishes - she's a Republican, for goodness' sake.
Sarah Palin is every red-blooded redneck's fantasy figure, every randy
schoolboy's Mrs Robinson. She could have stepped straight out of one of
long-lost cousin Michael's Ripping Yarns.

Cheerleader, beauty queen, dominatrix of the Harper Valley PTA, mother of
five, mayor, governor and now a heartbeat away from the Vice-Presidency.
You couldn't make her up. Law And Order's Fred Thompson, once a presidential
candidate himself, hit the baby seal on the head when he said the Left were
in a blind panic over what to do about Palin.

Joke's on you: John McCain, displaying a sense of mischief rare in politics,
with his choice of Sarah Palin, surrounded by her family, as his
running-mate
What they are doing is what they usually do when confronted with something
which offends their world view - character assassination. Every 'liberal'
newspaper and TV network has sent hatchet men north to Alaska to dig for the
dirt beneath the tundra.

What they discovered is that 80 per cent of Alaskans think she's doing a
great job.
A supermarket tabloid is claiming she had an affair, which she denies. Apart
from that, the worst the scandal-hounds have come up with is that Palin, as
governor, put pressure on a police chief to fire her former brother-in-law.
Given that said brother-in-law had beaten up her sister and threatened to
kill her father, I'd say that far from abusing her office, she showed
considerable restraint. I'm surprised she didn't put a bullet in his head.

The big talking point is the pregnancy of Palin's 17-year-old daughter,
Bristol, who is soon to marry her boyfriend. That's what I call a shotgun
wedding!
Still, it kills the wild rumour that Bristol is really the mother of Palin's
Down's syndrome baby, Trig.
You've just got to like a woman who calls her son after a character in Only
Fools And Horses. Although it's probably fair to assume she doesn't have a
working knowledge of Cockney rhyming slang, otherwise her daughter would
never have been christened Bristol.

When Palin talks about shattering the glass ceiling, the sisters are
supposed to cheer - except most of them suspect her idea of shattering a
glass ceiling would be with a both barrels blast from a 12-bore.
She epitomises the 'God and guns' mentality at which Barack Obama and his
supporters sneer. They use 'small town' as a pejorative term. That's not how
Middle America sees it.

John Mellencamp wrote his hit song Small Town as an ironic take on
Hicksville, USA. He even performed it at an Obama rally earlier this year.
Back at you: Democrats say Sarah lacks the experience for the top job - but
neither do Obama or Biden

But that hasn't stopped Middle Americans adopting it as an anthem.
Mellencamp must be just as horrified as Springsteen was when Ronald Reagan
purloined his anti-war Born In The USA as a campaign song.
It's not that the Americans don't do irony, as European 'sophisticates'
always maintain.
It's just that sometimes, my dear, they don't give a damn. A good song is a
good song - and to hell with the message.
Most Americans were born and raised in a small town. Her values are their
values.

The mantra from the Obama camp is that she lacks the experience to be VP. In
truth, she has more executive experience than either Obama or his Neil
Kinnock-impersonator sidekick mate Joe Biden, neither of whom has ever run
anything.
But, wail the sceptics, what about foreign affairs? Admittedly, Palin has
never slagged off her country at a mass rally in Berlin. But Alaska's next
door to Russia. She's got more experience of dealing with Russians than
anyone outside of corporate hospitality at Stamford Bridge.
Who is Putin more likely to be wary of - Barack 'we must negotiate with
dictators' Obama, or Looby Loo packing heat?

To paraphrase the Duke of Wellington, I don't know what she does to the
enemy, but she scares the life out of me.
Palin reminds me of the old joke about what's the difference between the IRA
and a woman with PMT? You can negotiate with the IRA.

What she does have in spades is experience of the energy industry - the
number one concern right now. Palin would drill, drill and drill some more -
polar bears or no polar bears. And when the oil companies got greedy, she
imposed a windfall tax. Unlike Gordon Brown, who'd keep it, she gave every
Alaskan a $1,200 rebate.
With all the hoop-la, it's easy to forget that she's running for
Vice-President, not President. Not yet.
Sarah Palin: The next Margaret Thatcher? Time will tell...
That's what really frightens her condescending opponents. Not that we've a
leg to stand on in Britain. We've got Harriet Harman a chewed fingernail
away from the top job - and she's never shot a moose in her life.

Remember, they all laughed at Margaret Thatcher.
But ho, ho, ho, who had the last laugh?

Okay first off, what does Palin have to say in the matter. She has no idea of foreign policy, she doesn't even keep up-to-date with the Iraq and her son is about to be shipped off over there! Going to war with Russia is the craziest thing I've heard of in a while! That's political suicide and will bring WWIII as we know it with nukes and everything. Want to see the end of the world, elect McCain and Palin.

She should first fix her family affairs before fixing our nations foreign affairs... I can't believe she counts being in Alaska and 'stopping' Russia from attacking the US as something she did. What an ignorant fool, it's called diplomacy and you had nothing to do with it Sarah Palin!

polaff.blogspot.com...

The keywords were "Perhaps so".

If a country needs to help a fellow NATO ally during a drastic situation such as all out open full scale war, it has to be done.

Diplomacy and communication should always be the primary directives before full scale war, anything else is fullishness.

The russians (not to offend you) are having a worse time dealing with the cold temperatures instead of war.

My two cents.

Originally posted by bubbapug1985
The keywords were "Perhaps so".

If a country needs to help a fellow NATO ally during a drastic situation such as all out open full scale war, it has to be done.

Diplomacy and communication should always be the primary directives before full scale war, anything else is fullishness.

If a country needs help from its NATO ally you of course have the ruse of possible war with Russia. You do not do it though. No one country, or handful of countries are worth a possible nuclear exchange with Russia.

No country can survive long economically if the west does not want it too. You do not have to have a war with Russia to make Russia back down.

Originally posted by SteveR


I am tired of hearing about Palin and the ubiquitous political tit for tat, but this interview disturbed me sufficiently enough to want to post it on ATS.

Palin's "perhaps so" on a war between the United States and Russia is the gutsiest comment by anyone in this political season so far.

Not only is it irresponsible and simply frightening but it reflects very clearly on the character of a woman who could be one heartbeat away from the Presidency and the nuclear codes.

I can only imagine what the Kremlin may be thinking and planning in response to a McCain-Palin win. With McCain's diehard mccarthyism and Palin's inexcusable irreverence this ticket is something the Russians should be very concerned about right now.

seattlepi.nwsource.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Oh I believe the Russians have been getting ready for awhile now.

The Bear bombers ppl like to laugh about don't carry bombs
anymore, they carry Stealth Nuclear Cruise Missiles.

Upgrades from the KH-55 with the KH-102 warhead.

Russia's Stealth Nuclear Cruise Missiles

Paragraph 5 for critical details.

Russia has for years been working on a massive underground city,
that will house 60,000+ and withstand 6 target-on-target strikes
in the same spot.

This underground city is near completion, they are prepared for
the so called endgame.

Mount Yamantau - Nuclear War prepared underground city

The US has been spending 94% of the FEMA budget on continuity of
government, not on protecting the ppl.

94% of FEMA budget going to continuity of government

You can see the other congress members look bland or almost annoyed
that Jack Brooks asked the questions he did, but they none the less
told him it is not to be discussed in front of the public eyes and ears.

One of the more obvious underground facilities is Mount Weather.

Mount Weather

Raven Rock

You have to wonder where the Air force TBM's are digging to if
the tunnels are not being used by regular military troops or
the public ?

Photo of United States Air Force tunnel boring machine at Little Skull Mountain, Nevada, USA, December 1982.

Air Force Tunnel Boring Machine

Supposedly there is a high speed tunnel system under the US.

Possible high speed tunnel system under the US

They do not plan on most of us living through what is coming,
and I get the feeling they knew about this day 28 years ago.

Somebody wants 6.1 billion of us dead