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reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 04:33 PM by TheComte
reply to post by sos37


First of all, this thread is about Palin's attempt to ban books. Do you have an opinion on that either way? Are you all for it? Against?

As far as your example of the Obama campaign's transgressions, I don't agree with that either. However, the main difference is that at this time he is in the middle of a campaign to win the Presidency. We all know that both parties play dirty when so much is at stake.

With Palin, the spotlight wasn't on her, she was already mayor of a small community, zero media attention. And yet her beliefs caused her to think book banning was a good thing. She actually believed she was doing right. Kudos to the town for standing up to her.


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 04:48 PM by sos37
reply to post by TheComte


According to that story, the town stood up to her for firing Ms. Emmons. It did say that Ms. Emmons vowed to fight censorship, but there are no hard conclusions drawn that say the town stood up to Palin for wanting to ban books, or even that Palin wanted to fire Ms. Emmons for resisting her on the book banning issue.

The NY Times introduces these things and wants the reader to draw these conclusions, which you did.

Now I do disagree with banning books, except in the cases of Elementary, Middle, Junior and High Schools. There are certain books I believe should not be available there, like "The Anarchist's Cookbook" and the like. Those types of books can be so easily had over the internet nowadays anyway.

On the Obama campaign, isn't the fact that they will do this in plain site, during a campaign an indicator that they would have no problems doing it behind closed doors, through legislation?


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 04:53 PM by eNumbra
Originally posted by sos37
reply to post by TheComte


According to that story, the town stood up to her for firing Ms. Emmons. It did say that Ms. Emmons vowed to fight censorship, but there are no hard conclusions drawn that say the town stood up to Palin for wanting to ban books, or even that Palin wanted to fire Ms. Emmons for resisting her on the book banning issue.

The NY Times introduces these things and wants the reader to draw these conclusions, which you did.

Now I do disagree with banning books, except in the cases of Elementary, Middle, Junior and High Schools. There are certain books I believe should not be available there, like "The Anarchist's Cookbook" and the like. Those types of books can be so easily had over the internet nowadays anyway.

On the Obama campaign, isn't the fact that they will do this in plain site, during a campaign an indicator that they would have no problems doing it behind closed doors, through legislation?


They should both be flogged for their censorship, but they've done nothing different. Both cases are infringing upon the right to free speech/press etc, and IMO equally damning.

Censorship is first and foremost accorded by the bill of rights as the most offensive thing to any real American.


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 05:06 PM by TheComte
reply to post by sos37


OK, but can we not assume that if the town stood up for the librarian who did NOT want the censorship, that they also did NOT want the censorship. Seems like that is the only conclusion to draw.

And I also agree that some books should not be available to children and that is why I asked if anyone knew which books she wanted banned. I think it would reveal a lot of her character if we did know. It may not be possible to find out, however.

I do not think that Obama will do anything worse than what has already been done by the current administration or by McCain if he gets elected. I do think that Palin is too fundamentalist for office though.



reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 05:11 PM by sos37
Originally posted by TheComte
reply to post by sos37


OK, but can we not assume that if the town stood up for the librarian who did NOT want the censorship, that they also did NOT want the censorship. Seems like that is the only conclusion to draw.


That's a distinct possibility. Then again, maybe she's the 60 year old granny who knows everyone in town and the thought of her being fired outraged everyone who heard it. Personally though, I would stand up to city council if they decided to ban books from the public library. One way to find out would be for one of these reporters at rally or event to just come out and ask her which books she wanted to ban and why. So far she's been talking about giving straight answers, so it would be a good test of her straightforwardness and a willingness to discuss past issues.


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 10:49 PM by Swampfox46_1999
Originally posted by TheComte
reply to post by sos37


First of all, this thread is about Palin's attempt to ban books. Do you have an opinion on that either way? Are you all for it? Against?

As far as your example of the Obama campaign's transgressions, I don't agree with that either. However, the main difference is that at this time he is in the middle of a campaign to win the Presidency. We all know that both parties play dirty when so much is at stake.

With Palin, the spotlight wasn't on her, she was already mayor of a small community, zero media attention. And yet her beliefs caused her to think book banning was a good thing. She actually believed she was doing right. Kudos to the town for standing up to her.


Well, first, I would like to know the full story behind the situation. Face it, the New York Times is NOT known for accuracy in its reporting anymore. What were the circumstances? Was it a rhetorical discussion? Or did the town librarian have Penthouse Letters on the shelf?


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 08:02 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Here are the books:

For Inappropriate language

A Wrinkle in Time
Brave New World
Catch 22
Anything by Stephen King
Everything by JK Rowling
Most of Shakespeare
Webster’s 9th New Collegiate Dictionary.

This is according to a PODcast made by a woman who read the Time Magazine story. She says the librarian's name was Mary Ellen Baker, who was actually fired by Palin, but then was given her job back under public outcry.

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