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Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic
Well I didn't hear about that and in which case it was probably an officer's mistake.
You should get a grip. You cannot have 100% freedom or 100% dictatorship.
Both systems fail. They always have, and they always will.
The mixture of the both works for maximum longevity for the government.
Federal investigators found credit card numbers on Al-Marri's laptop computer and charged him with credit card fraud. Upon further investigation, the government said, agents found evidence that al-Marri had links to al-Qaida terrorists and was a national security threat. Authorities shifted al-Marri's case from the criminal system and moved him to indefinite military detention. Al-Marri has denied the government's allegations and is seeking to challenge the government's evidence and cross-examine its witnesses in court.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic
He doesn't seem so innocent to me.
This all goes back to what I said earlier. Put this in the public domain. Then it will bee seen.
if it's bad, it's simple, the gov made a mistake.
The government isn't God, and it will never be perfect. there isn't some miracle government that will keep you safe and free. a balance of both will always bee needed.
Originally posted by BlackOps719
Police officers of today are no longer taught to protect and serve.
They are being trained to be the stormtroopers for the federal government and for the wealthy few. After all, if you are going to be stripping away rights and declaring martial law on a society of people, you have to have the hired muscle to enforce the corrupt & crooked policy.
They do it under the guise of upholding the "law" yet it is done so at the barrell of a loaded gun.
The Nazis had the Gestapo, Saddaam Hussein had the Republican Guard, and the US government has the good old boys in blue....making sure that you do what you are told or else!!
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic
But don't you see? The system works. Because all this is in the public domain, people react. That's what I've been saying. Make everything visible to big brother and this won't happen!
Thank you for proving my point.
Wow you have a jaded view of police. What police training sessions have you sat in on? Do you have any material that shows how the police are being taught differently than to protect and serve? I'm going to guess the answer is no and that you've either seen or been involved in bad situations with cops. Your data is a dot on the graph yes, but hardly paints a complete picture.
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Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic
But you did hear of the case, as did all those who protested. Do you expect 300 million people to ALL know everything ALL the time?
The government makes mistakes, and then the people slap their wrists and teach them a lessen. This is the value of the public big brother system.
To be honest, this is a benevolent Oceania of sorts. The people ARE the cia and fbi. The People ARE the watchdogs and protectors. If Big Brother opens all things in the public domain, the need to protect us is still under their authority, but the people will help them.
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