Liquid Water seeps at Phoenix site, page 2

Originally posted by ArMaP


That is easy to see.

Sol 86


Sol 87, morning

Sol 87, afternoon


The order is correct, what is missing is the other photo before these.

Sol 84, morning.

Armap
Why do you say Sol 84 was missing?
Is there a cover up going on?

Sol-84 in living color.

reply to post by Woodlock

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It was (and still is) missing from the page presented on the Opening Post, just that.

As that page does not show the full sequence of all images available (and they are too many for me to post) it is easy for people not to understand what happened, because the first scoop of material left the ice visible and the first photo on that page does not show any ice.

I hope I haven't make things worse with my explanation.

ArMap
Then why not show the photo before Sol-84?
Because it's to much work ?
OR
You're being lazy?
OR
It mite some thing you can't go along with?

The earlier photo that show Cupboard was five days (sols) earlier.

Sol-79


Five Sols means five time the Sun can melt and evaporate water.

You say; "it's easy to see what's going on here.
What is going on here at Cupboard on Sol79.
(hint: it's not easy)
(clue: look at sol74)

Sol-74 Dodo & Cupboard

Originally posted by ArMaP

That is easy to see.

What I meant was that it was (and still is) easy to see if the photos are correctly ordered, and I never said "what's going on here", that you wrote by yourself, I never said that.

But you never said what it is easy for you to see if the photos are in the "correct order". Photo's have alway been in the correct order, you just added one to the first photo at Bob's web link that started this thread.
Why stop at sol-84 why not go back to the start at Sol-67. Sol-67 is the start of the Cupboard dig.

What do you see? mann
Ice and water?

Sol-67

See what you made me do, you made me work some more.

Here is a list of all images from "Upper Cupboard" I could find, created by me using the original geyscale images for each chanel (it's more interesting than using the images provided by NASA).

First Sol with that trench, Sol 79.


Sol 80


Sol 82


Sol 84

Sol 86

Sol 87

Sol 88


Sol 90


As anyone can see, there are various volumes of ice (I suppose it's ice) on the different photos, but the most interesting was when I noticed that some photos are almost greyscale, although they are a combination of red, green and blue channels.

That means that the images are almost the same, so with no difference between colours we get a grey image.

It was then that I noticed that the bigger difference was not in the shade of grey for each channel (red should be brighter, blue the darker, with green almost as dark as the blue), was the shape and size of the ice patch, so I decided to make some animations to see it better.

The time each photo was taken is on the upper left corner of the image.

Sol 87

Full size (512x512) image

Sol 88
Full size (1024x1024, 2MB) image

Sol 90
Full size (1024x1024, 4MB) image


[edit on 31/8/2008 by ArMaP]

reply to post by Woodlock

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I do trust my work, but the time I lost because of your undue doubts and dubious quotations of my posts is something I can never get back.

But seeing the positive side, I got some good animations showing the ice patch growing.

ArcMap your link for sol 88 wouldn't load is Windows or Firefox:

img184.imageshack.us...

I also with to THANK YOU sincerely for the time, work and talent you put into this question so far....but more especially for both you and Woodlock for the GENORSITY in SHARING that with all of the rest of us.

It is SINCERELY and gratefully appreciated.

There are fewenough folks OUTSIDE NASA that I ALWAYS thank and am apreciative of those that re-check NASA's work and trust their OWN processing to TRULY find out what is happening rather than simply "believe" a NASA Press release simply beause it's from NASA.

We have learned the HARD way since 1976 that NASA's PR's are NOT always true and accurate and outside independant people re-doing the work with the RAW data is always important.

And why it also important to applaud those who do the work at hoe and SHARE their ralent aand work with the rest of us.

Again it IS appreciated. Thank you.

I still think there is an "on-going" action here.

Bob...

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