The people who control the world are the people who control your world.

If you live a life unobstructed in most avenues and endeavors you control the world, truly depends on the individual. If your endeavors are far and wide you may find someone else controls it.

Originally posted by cnm1976
I once was told about the black sheep, part of the story was that the world is ruled by 7 ( corporations/people) I can't remember which one it was but out of that 7 only 1 ruled over them all. There was a website that I was pushed towards and read most of it they claimed that the person at the top was coloured black. I have tried to search for it not that long ago but couldn't find it again. Maybe someone on ATS could or knows about this?

The problem I have with an Autocratic society you describe is that there is just not enough time/space to control absolutely EVERYTHING. You see, the downside of being an autocrat is that every decision with impact has to be taken by said autocrat. How is he/she going to do that without stagnating the economy, development etc.? Of course there has been some stagnation but that has not always been the case. There are times of growth too. I am not saying it is not possible but I just think it is highly improbable. That a country stagnates when governed by an Autocratic ruler is best demonstrated by pre-revolutionary Russia with disastrous results and that was just one (huge) country!

However, in the same vein, I do think that Banks are culpable. There seems to be some sort of elitist control somewhere. Not to mention the Federal Reserve Bank which is printing money without it having any basis in anything remotely valuable. I believe that the monetary system IS the wool that is being pulled over our eyes...

Originally posted by franspeakfree
Any other names to throw in the pot would be good?


[edit on 27-8-2008 by franspeakfree]

Suterlands - HSBC - Worlds biggest commercial bank
Vanderbilt's - Most powerful family in the US
Waltons - Walmart. Speaks for itself really but i haven't heard much about them being up to much more than the usual corporate crap though.


Cant think of anymore off the top of my head

Well, look at it this way. There will always be somebody in control of the countries and banks. It's been that way from the beginning of civilization, and if you want to live in it, you're just going to have to deal with it.

As for your individual life, you personally will be in control of that. You can choose to work with whoever might be in control of the banks or the governments, or you can decide to go against the grain and work as much as you can outside the flow, in one of the smaller eddies.

A lot of people like to judge the big corporations or families, and call them "evil" or "manipulative." But they're just doing the same thing you would do, given the chance, which is try to gain control of some of the chaos in the world and better your position in it. Unless you like living in poverty, because it "doesn't hurt anybody." Which is a little naive.

But the bottom line is that unless we become hermits, we all have to work within a social structure. There's no getting around that. But it's completely up to you how you want to do that. You own your own reality, and you are the only one in charge.

I will relate a story about some super powerful Americans. Their name is Mellon. I only know this story because an uncle used to maintain one of their estates.

They have a place in New England called 'The Thursday House'. It's obscenely larger than anything you and I might live in, but modest by their standards.

Every Thursday, they would get in a station wagon (!) and dad would actually drive it out to the Thursday house, where mom would cook (!) dinner, and actually do dishes. Then, they would do real family stuff like watch TV or play a board game.
They would make their own drinks and dish their own desserts and make their own beds and sleep ( not on the finest fabrics ), well- you get the picture.
In the morning a limo and driver and personal assistants would come pick them up and whisk them away to breakfast...
They would do it again next Thursday, of course.

What our masters are doing is motherlike, fatherlike, Godlike- as far as they are concerned, and we should all be grateful. If we're not- it's because we're stupid and uncivilized.
They are doing us a favor, after all- managing these things for us.
They think this even though they longingly mimic us ( the Thursday house was a secret, not a cruel joke to taunt us ).

Of course it's not about money- the money's for us... our carrot on a stick.
They don't need it.

They print the money. We're supposed to chase it and occupy ourselves like a dog after a frisbee.

If we don't do well- you will be put down. If you do well, you will be rewarded.

It's perfect, if you have no pride... and- if you can learn to do tricks.

Certainn cultures are able to learn the tricks that please the rulers better than others. To bad about those who do not do well in the circus.

I am reminded of how lucky I am that myself and my people are good performers. I could have been born an aids orphan in Zaire.

Well, I regret being so negative and cynical,but- I've written this and I may as well post it...

Originally posted by Dermo

Originally posted by franspeakfree
Any other names to throw in the pot would be good?


[edit on 27-8-2008 by franspeakfree]

Suterlands - HSBC - Worlds biggest commercial bank
Vanderbilt's - Most powerful family in the US
Waltons - Walmart. Speaks for itself really but i haven't heard much about them being up to much more than the usual corporate crap though.


Cant think of anymore off the top of my head

Thanks dermo for the info I will get right on it and see what I can dig up. I appreciate your input as always

Thanks everyone for all your views I appreciate it

You could try googling 'european black nobility'.

I found out about them today when I was looking up something entirely different. I remembered your thread and thought you might be interested.