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Originally posted by mabus325
No one. That's the ultimate conspiracy theory. The utlimate conspiracy theory is getting you to believe that there is some one in charge when there is no one in charge.
i totally agree with you ,as in fact all of us every day contribute in keeping this system "alive".WE all go to work,we all use money so none is in charge and all are in charge.
The rotschild,Illuminati ,freemason is just pure theory and no real facts at all.
reply to franspeakfree
How does one group of elitist make the decisions so quickly that filter down to us minions. If there are several groups of elitists, how do they divide the power. We are not talking about a small company we are talking about the world!
Firstly, there is not just one group of elitists. There are a few that have huge influence in Europe, a few that have huge influence in the US etc, approx 13 main banking families and all the rest i explained. They all have varying levels of influence in different ways BUT they dont all work together for a common goal!!
Originally posted by vance
Here in the United States, we are fortunate enough to own our own little world over here and the things we can acquire through hard work, education and down right focusing on individual goals. An American citizen can actually go all the way to the top of the world in my opinion - with some effort on their part. Only the lazy and uneducated suffer here in the U.S.
I haven't been to a lot of countries without an M-16 lol so, I can only attest to my country being owned by the people.
Published on Monday, February 27, 2006 by CommonDreams.org
When Americans No Longer Own America
by Thom Hartmann
Through a combination of the "Fast Track" authority pushed for by Reagan and GHW Bush, sweetheart trade deals involving "most favored nation status" for dictatorships like China, and Clinton pushing us into NAFTA and the WTO (via GATT), we've abandoned the principles of tariff-based trade that built American industry and kept us strong for over 200 years.
The old concept was that if there was a dollar's worth of labor in a pair of shoes made in the USA, and somebody wanted to import shoes from China where there may only be ten cents worth of labor in those shoes, we'd level the playing field for labor by putting a 90-cent import tariff on each pair of shoes. Companies could choose to make their products here or overseas, but the ultimate cost of labor would be the same.
Then came the flat-worlders, led by misguided true believers and promoted by multinational corporations. Do away with those tariffs, they said, because they "restrain trade." Let everything in, and tax nothing. The result has been an explosion of cheap goods coming into our nation, and the loss of millions of good manufacturing jobs and thousands of manufacturing companies. Entire industry sectors have been wiped out.
These policies have kneecapped the American middle class. Our nation's largest employer has gone from being the unionized General Motors to the poverty-wages Wal-Mart. Americans have gone from having a net savings rate around 10 percent in the 1970s to a minus .5 percent in 2005 - meaning that they're going into debt or selling off their assets just to maintain their lifestyle.
At the same time, federal policy has been to do the same thing at a national level. Because our so-called "free trade" policies have left us with an over $700 billion annual trade deficit, other countries are sitting on huge piles of the dollars we gave them to buy their stuff (via Wal-Mart and other "low cost" retailers). But we no longer manufacture anything they want to buy with those dollars.
So instead of buying our manufactured goods, they are doing what we used to do with Third World nations - they are buying us, the USA, chunk by chunk. In particular, they want to buy things in America that will continue to produce profits, and then to take those profits overseas where they're invested to make other nations strong. The "things" they're buying are, by and large, corporations, utilities, and natural resources.
Back in the pre-Reagan days, American companies made profits that were distributed among Americans. They used their profits to build more factories, or diversify into other businesses. The profits stayed in America.
Today, foreigners awash with our consumer dollars are on a two-decades-long buying spree. The UK's BP bought Amoco for $48 billion - now Amoco's profits go to England. Deutsche Telekom bought VoiceStream Wireless, so their profits go to Germany, which is where most of the profits from Random House, Allied Signal, Chrysler, Doubleday, Cyprus Amax's US Coal Mining ....
Originally posted by franspeakfree
reply to post by Dermo
Don't get me wrong I am reading your posts with great intrigue but something just doesn't add up. I just don't see how several groups of elitists can work together. (using lord of the flies as an example)
Whats your take on the reptillian angle? i.e other beings that could be directing this planet? for good and bad?
Originally posted by cnm1976
I once was told about the black sheep, part of the story was that the world is ruled by 7 ( corporations/people) I can't remember which one it was but out of that 7 only 1 ruled over them all. There was a website that I was pushed towards and read most of it they claimed that the person at the top was coloured black. I have tried to search for it not that long ago but couldn't find it again. Maybe someone on ATS could or knows about this?
Originally posted by franspeakfree
To start with and I am repeating myself here ITS NOT ALL ABOUT MONEY AND WEALTH