posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 01:31 PM
The story of the Emperor (in various forms/names) in the hall with the soldiers, is very archetypal. By that I mean, I suspect that the real meaning
of this is fairly profound, in a spirituality-is-cosmology sort of way (rather like the Myths of various people).
My esoteric work doesn't really have a title but you could call it "jungian animist" I suppose. I sometimes run into massively powerful archetypal
sequences, and these can even be physical, where basically someone on this planet "carries" a certain energy, and the whole of reality sort of
acts-out around them as if a variation on a play. But aside from this, the interesting thing is that energy is real and acts out in dreams, in
creativity, in cultures all over, in many eras. It's like a holographic pattern that is more about powerful event-relationship-unfolding, than
anything. So you don't just get Mithras you get Jesus (both real people although events may be questioned), but you also get a few myths that are
also in the innocent-sacrificed to save the world modality.
Many of the Talmud (Old Testament) stories are pretty much replicas of Sumerian stuff, in much the same way that the Emperor in the mountain is a
different person in all the stories and a slightly different story in different places. I've come to understand as I get older that this does not
invalidate something but instead changes the nature of how it should be interpreted. You might compare this to say, a family situation where a certain
person behaves a certain way in a certain situation. Eventually you are not arguing about "the event of the day." You don't care about the minor
details of the daily situation, any of which vary. You care about the larger pattern, which is really the cycling energy of the thing; the details of
each one of those cycles are just the details. I think of these stories about the Emperor a little bit the same. The stories that are powerful enough
to remain with cultures, to replicate in cultures all over (sometimes to seemingly spontaneously crop up in separate cultures, much as 'inventions'
do), I feel there is usually an energetic cause for this; it is an archetype that speaks to people, even if on a subconscious level.
Another thing. Often in archetype work, you find that things in our reality are very representative of a certain kind of energy (usually several).
It's almost like some energies are a kaleidoscope, and when you look at them from one perspective they are a certain animal, and from another they
are a certain event, and from another they are a certain emotion, that sort of thing. Bats are the inverse of eagles the way that 51 is the inverse of
15; we are quite literally the universe and vice-versa (and I mean literally); I can't explain it. I can understand these things in the correct state
of mind, but my intellectual brain is not up to truly wrapping around a lot of it. Anyway, I read up to page 30-something but I didn't see anybody
else notice the interesting switch in that Emperor story: it was about when the birds of a certain type would no longer be circling the mountain, yes?
But then another version of the story said it would be when "thoughts and memories" were no longer encircling the mountain, or something like that.
This is a good example of archetypal energy in mythology; the 'conceptual' things are usually more core to it, the physical things (e.g. the birds)
are usually the representative of that. (I suspect ancient oral historians understood this stuff. Who knows.)
After doing psi sessions on caves in the past (double/solo blind) I've often had very vivid, surprising dreams that evening about them. Incredibly
shamanic things. In every instance, the cave was ALIVE. Well, probably the whole mountain. But anyway, vastly more sentient than many other things
that my spiritual practices kid me into thinking I'm interactive with (including humans), though different. But enough of that --
I think the mountains/caves and time anomalies element in the thread has missed one of more documented and potentially offside related things:
amphibians. There are tons of stories of frogs, for example, found in a rock broken open that is technically a few million years old. They are IN the
rock as if it formed around them... alive. There is a story of a large extinct bird that was released when they were digging a big tunnel in England I
think around the turn of the century (one before last) as well, google would probably find a few of these. Now, as mined rock this falls into the
mountain/cave category and as creatures found alive as if they went in there 10 minutes ago but they're in a rock millions of years old, that
qualifies as serious time distortion even if carbon dating were called into question. I had a truly astounding frog experience once (which is how I
read about those stories as I later searched to see if anyone else had encountered this) but I won't bore you with it since it is not topical to the