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Originally posted by Totalstranger
my guess is that we are a reflection of higher dimensions that are known(?) to exist. like the Carl Sagan flat ppl analogy. with the apple. I dunno thats my take. there is a 4th, 5th etc, dimension and we only see/are part of it. damn that string theory. life in vain-robert johnson lol
Originally posted by dunwichwitch
There is no God other than the ever-ending now.
The question, which ironically I just raised in a brand new thread was.... Who built the matrix and turned it on?
Originally posted by dunwichwitch
Do you get it?
Or is this a rhetorical question?
Yes I get it. What they mean by everything being an illusion is basically this:
Your very own infinitely blossoming thought matrix creates and converges into all of the ideas, images, sounds, events, objects, feelings, flavors, sights , colors, everything... of this moment in which you are living. Right here, right now is all that exists. Past and future are an illusion, time is an illusion. It's this whole complex geometrical matrix of being, in which our very "ideas of being" converge into one point, which is this consciousness now.
It's so simple, that when you get it completely, you go "Oh yeah", and you kind of forget it right away because if you kept thinking that each and every thing you experienced was an illusion, what would you really have? I've struggled with the implications of unmasking this illusion completely for a while now. So far, I've come across very little supporting evidence to make me think that this is definitely something people should know.
This isn't such a wonderful discovery to make. Some people discover it harshly through hallucinogens, some people are eased into it through spirituality/religion... but it all comes down to one thing. WE and EVERYTHING are the illusion of ONE never-ending consciousness matrix. I am that matrix...so are you.... and there is no difference. There is no independent being. There is no God other than the ever-ending now.
The question, which ironically I just raised in a brand new thread was.... Who built the matrix and turned it on? Who are these unimaginably advanced beings that contain a whole multi-verse inside a single point (or computer) in which this all continually unfolds in? Is their reality any more solid than ours? Is there a reality that isn't an illusion?
The movie "The Matrix" is quite eerie because I understand it as a metaphor... but while most people think the fictitious work is stranger than the "actual" Matrix (the thought that the metaphor of people plugged intp machines is a sci fi interpretation of media mind control and corporate battery and whatnot), I believe that the truth is a lot stranger and harder to digest than just simply people involuntarily plugged into machines their whole lives. It's quite alien to our rational abilities to understand, and this is why it has been much mystified by religious/spiritual groups. Science cannot prove the existence of it conclusively ever without unwittingly creating another layer of discovery , and religion can only give the willing a glimpse of it without taking away their right to be a sovereign being. It must be something unattainable and elusive, or else existence will lose its meaning. Mystery is the only meaning of existence. It's the only reason we do anything.
The best answers are questions. So I guess your question is better off unanswered. I don't (really want to) know, and maybe it's more enjoyable that way.
[edit on 17-8-2008 by dunwichwitch]
Originally posted by leeza
no, I dont get it.
I tried thinking about it, but it makes no sense to
me, that everything is an illusion. I dont understand how
that could be true.
Because if everything is an illusion , then where are we really at?
I was hoping that you guys could help
me understand how that could be true.