Russia Orders Destruction of US Naval Armada In Persian Gulf, page 6
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reply posted on 13-8-2008 @ 05:41 PM by ben420
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Couldn`t agree more, I still can`t believe this crap isn`t moved to skunkworks



reply posted on 14-8-2008 @ 08:36 PM by Anonymous ATS
There is more going on here than you are being told.

Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan - minor NATO annoyances.

Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, China, Russia - Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

Turkmenistan - significant commercial relationships with Russia and Iran.

Shanghai Cooperation Organization Observers - India, Pakistan, Iran, Mongolia.

Map from China's perspective:
4.bp.blogspot.com...

Map from Russia's perspective: 2.bp.blogspot.com...

Map of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and region: 4.bp.blogspot.com...

Now, you'd think Iran was between a rock and a hard place between Iraq and Afghanistan ... and the Persian Gulf ... which is being filled with the largest Naval armada since Gulf War I as we speak. (During the China Olympics. Are you watching the Olympics or are you paying attention?)

If the U.S. and/or Israel strike Iran, it will be the U.S. and its allies who will be between a rock and a hard place between Russia and China. Russia through the north by way of the Caspian Sea and China south through India, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

My bet is that Israel will make the first strike. Iran will have to retaliate. The U.S. and Israel being proxies for one another, Iran will take aim not only at Israel, but at the Naval armada in the gulf and sink one or more ships using SS-N-22 Sunburn and/or SS-N-26 Onyx anti-ship missiles. If Iran sinks an aircraft carrier it will bring the USgov on the brink of going nuclear on Iran. More than likely, an incident will happen on American soil and Martial Law declared and the draft reinstated.

Bush and his neoconmen have made a terrible mistake in instigating and provoking Georgia into a confrontation with Russia. There will be no more NATO sympathizers near the Caspian Sea to hinder Russia and Russia will have complete control over it along with other members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization who also surround the Caspian Sea. China has their sympathizers by way of India, Pakistan and Afghanistan who are Shanghai Cooperation Organization observers.

Is this about oil? You bet it is! The U.S. is trying to position itself into the Caspian Sea by way of northern Iran which holds an estimated 12 Trillion US dollars of oil and natural gas ... right at Russia's back yard!

Just remember this ... after we invaded Afghanistan, we built a oil pipeline right through it.

"I can't think of a time when we've had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically significant as the Caspian." - Dick Cheney (Yea ... 12 Trillion dollars worth).

We are living in interesting times.

causapatet.blogspot.com...


reply posted on 14-8-2008 @ 10:58 PM by pluckynoonez
reply to post by MischeviousElf



Calm down, no need to yell. The fact that the story has a headline that is quite a leap given the content/details, combined with a fact that such an order would mean a series of events that would move faster than anything in our lifetime, it stands to reason that the writer (that crazy chick) has no ethos or logos, for we are are still here living and breathing.


reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 10:45 AM by MischeviousElf
Originally posted by pluckynoonez
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post by MischeviousElf



Calm down, no need to yell. The fact that the story has a headline that is quite a leap given the content/details, combined with a fact that such an order would mean a series of events that would move faster than anything in our lifetime, it stands to reason that the writer (that crazy chick) has no ethos or logos, for we are are still here living and breathing.


You are right and I should have not reacted like that,

However this has really got my goat going as they say, both that its not been moved within ATS to skunkworks or BTS, and WTF does Faal think she/it is up to?

Really this is seriously not the time to be circulating stories like this. I know most will disagree, however, that story if packaged spun properly could turn out similar to the intelligence disasters in both the UK and US over recent years.

Many people will accept this as if only partly true. Due to the above I feel it should have been moved or closed no matter what the traffic, and I would only think that is right with about 3-4 stories in total I have seen posted, and running after initial moderation veiwing over my time here.

This thread should have been the exception to the business model!

However that is my opinion and I am wrong to force it down peoples necks, and throw my teddy out of the pram.

To close all I can say is that on every thread page this has been mentioned, and the sources reliability questioned. Hopefully people will read between the lines!

-HOAX- In the title would do, even the adding of a more descriptive verb such as "Rumors" "claims" !

Kind Regards,

Elf.

[edit on 15-8-2008 by MischeviousElf]


reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 08:45 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Yea, well ... the MSM, in case you have not noticed in the past few years, hasn't produced anything of substance other than lies and sensationalism. Are they not the one who told us that Saddam had WMD. Yellow cake? Unmanned drones that Saddam was going to fly to America and spray us with biological goo? Didn't they tell us that Saddam and Bin Laden were butt buddies? That he had come close to building a nuclear bomb? I distinctly remember right after the false flag 911 military propaganda units being paraded around the news rooms for all to see ... and then poof! They dared not parade them on television again. The people that control the MSM are not looking out for your best interests. Nor are they looking for the absolute truth. They work for the people who have a common belief system. They keep you entertained with their circus act ... and you happily follow along stuffing your face with cotton candy. They speak for their bretheren.
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