Originally posted by Retro~Burn
I have considered the possibility that the aforementioned "jamming" may have been an inadvertent/natural effect of whatever propulsion system the craft empoyed. However it seems the jamming is only mentioned after the craft broke the F-16s "lock-ons" several times.

I'm replying a long time after this... Well, the fact this happens at lock break would not dismiss the possibility that it is an artefact/side effect of whatever propulsion means. In fact, it could as well be the proof of it too!

Also, where ECM seems to fail as far as I'm aware, is because many of radar observations & recordings were coupled with ground observations from people's eyes... I doubt that ECM can also cast a holographic picture that matches the effects that it produces on radars.

GREAT thread S&F! Thanks for all the effort that you put into getting the information together. This is the kind of thread that keeps the skeptics cowering under the porch like frightened dogs. Very difficult to throw much mud when that kind of analysis has been done.

I think it is probably extra-terrestrial but there is always the outside possibility it is military. There is the theory that the energy field that powers such craft and allows that kind of acceleration also excludes the occupants and the craft itself from being subject to normal G forces.

Hello there and thank you to all who have taken an interest in this fascinating and still unexplained case.

I got a link to this website over the course of my own investigations, so I thought this would be the best place to post the results of my own efforts. I have studied the various circumstances surrounding this case in glaring detail. What is such a shock about this particular case is the willingness of the Belgian Armed Forces to share information to the public. If only the United States military was nearly as accommodating, my life would certainly be much easier.

What sets this UFO case apart from the norm is the fact that a radar signature was indeed reported by the Belgian surveillance net, and 2 well trained fighter pilots got a first hand account of the craft.

I will recount what I have learned from the Ebsco Host and Lexis Academic databases which are based upon interviews from members of the Belgian Military. For the purposes of this discussion, I will limit my scope to the actions of the military since they are the most accountable and keep far more precise records.

Aprox 10-17 min after the initial civilian reports on March 30th, The CRC surveillance net (which monitors Belgian airspace from potential threats) reported that an unidentified aircraft was in violation of international law by compromising military airspace. The craft did not respond to transponder "squack" and it was not categorized by IFF (Identify Friend/Foe) receivers.

Fearing possible attack, The commanding officer of Beauvechain Air Base ordered two F-16 to be scrambled to intercept. Within 7 min, the two planes were airborne and quickly accelerated to supersonic in an effort to close on their target. The resulting sonic booms over largely civilian areas only added to the already growing speculation among the population.

After closing to within 5 miles of the target, the next ensuing hour amounted to a "dog fight" of other worldly and unprecedented proportions. Both combat pilots had logged well over 2000 hours of flight time in that particular tactical aircraft, and were still scarcely able to explain the maneuverability and acceleration of their target.

At long last, Fighter A, who was flying using a typical 2x2 (wingman) attack formation reported back to Beauvechain Air Base that he had a weapons lock on the target and requested permission to fire. Permission was granted to engage, and the pilot removed the firing trigger from his heat seekers. Only mere seconds before the pilot was to announce "Fox 2" (denoting weapons release), the target dropped dramatically in altitude negating the radar lock. Researchers would later speculate that the craft had to be under intelligent control as it was anticipating the fighter was about to fire.

At this point the two pilots announced that they were switching to sidewinders and their MG61 Gatling cannon as they were more appropriate at closer range, but were still unable to get off a shot or achieve a firing solution.

Unable to keep up with the obviously far more technologically advanced aircraft, and running dramatically low on fuel, the two fighters broke contact at 0400 Zulu time 5 miles off the coast of The Netherlands and returned to base.

The rest, as they say, is history.




[edit on 8-7-2010 by thelost]

this is the best case of sighting imo
in germany not too many people know about it
pretty strange isnt it?

I think that this incident is incredibly important - in the same category as Tehran or the Peruvian Air Force (Oscar Huerta) encounter. The available data is staggering and there's so much evidence that debunkers really struggle to pick holes in it. For one reason or another though, these cases aren't as well known as they really should be and are more content to debate for hours over cases like Rendlesham or whatever which have much shakier grounds. Cases like these are what first got me really interested in the subject and taught me that there is some solid, tangible evidence for the existence of these machines, yet for some reason these cases fly under the radar a bit. It's baffling.

I see a lot of people wave this off with a post such as "It's the TR3-B" or something similar. What I like about this case is that two of the most plausible explanations are i) it's ET and ii) it's military black project, yet the latter takes a real stretch of the imagination - obviously, we can only really study this hypothesis in depth anyway and it proves nothing, but the more I look at the case, the more I feel that the black project hypothesis is implausible. I'm almost 100 % certain that the Belgians wouldn't have a craft like this - that's further compounded by the fact that, if they did, they wouldn't scramble an intercept and prepare to fire on it. So that means it must belong to another country with the US being the prime suspects.

The question is, why would the US fly a black project over civilian areas in a foreign country? That goes against pretty much all military behaviour surrounding these types of craft. We have to assume that the Belgians weren't notified about this either, seeing as the F16s were sent after it - so it begs the question: why risk having your super secret black project shot down or crash in a foreign, allied country? Not only would this be seen as an act of aggresion, but the sheer level of technology would cause a bit of a storm, not to mention an International Relations crisis - obviously, the Belgians would want to know why the US is terrorising its civilians and doing whatever it feels like in their airspace, as well as holding back incredible technology which could benefit the world. Also, I wonder why they wouldn't equip the craft with stealth technology, since by that point, the US had it and by not using it, the Belgians get a lot of valuable flight characteristic data from the radar traces. The theory about pushing the Russians is interesting, but at the same time the location doesn't seem like a particularly logical choice - surely it'd be easier to do it in your own country to the same effect without risking your shiny new toy getting shot down or malfunctioning on foreign soil.

Either way, I'll be on the look out for new information on this. I love this case, there's so little conflicting evidence and it pretty much completely checks out. Thanks to the OP for posting the thread - this case needs more exposure.

thanks for posting !

the performance of the object seems to indicate it's a probe of sorts in my mind. We have no way of knowing what kind of G's an ET could handle, of course, but it also makes sense to send in the probe before you send real pilots in anyway, and depending on the mission, you don't need real pilots in the first place

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Is anyone still following this case?

can i see a picture of the ailen it self?