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reply posted on 24-2-2009 @ 03:35 PM by CavemanDD
reply to post by DeusEx



What's this white wolf you speak of? I've been looking curiously into this since the summer. The context of the conversation of which it came up with spirits in general, and vampires.

Are the 2 interlinked, is there some info out there?

thanks.


reply posted on 15-3-2009 @ 11:40 AM by Bella-x
Think of this as you will. but i am a firm believer in vampires. and i would just like to put down some reasons why I and many others believe in what we do. my name is Bella but don't think im a twilight obsessed fan im only in this because i am a vampire believer and always have been:

1) If vampires are truly as clever, intelligent and evolved as myth and legend make them out to then is it any wonder why they haven't yet been properly discovered and have been able to blend in with the scene of the normal day life of a human with out a hitch?

2) think to a few years back, when scientists said that absolutely nothing could live to a certain point in the ocean as the pressure at the bottom was so strong anything that went down there would inevitably ... die? well years later they found a whole new species! aquatic creatures that we would never of dreamed of. and that shows that people get it wrong, it shows that scientist can be wrong sometimes... dead wrong.

and yes what if vampires have tried reaching out to us? Like if a newly created vampire is lonely and wants, needs to tell someone about him/her so it can take the strain off them, but by the time they try to convince us, a fellow vampire or a coven member has told them the dangers and has convinced him/her vampire that they cant tell anyone or else? and then the lonesome vampire has simply agreed.

4) the last and most puzzling but true reason. Shouldn't we be finding ways to prove why they cant exist not ways to show they do? i mean there is more proof showing they do, from sightings and odd events and history staitments. There is no proof that they don't exist accept from the fact that there isn't any to show 100% that they do. so if anyone ever says they do not exist then ask them for the proof. I bet they cant show you any and never will. I don't know if we ever will know if they 100% do exist but look at the facts and the science of it all. we have prodigies, physics, and extraordinary people in this world which should be impossible so why not vampires?

Thanks for reading

Any questions that are sensible i am happy to answer

Bells.



reply posted on 15-3-2009 @ 05:34 PM by toraylin
Hmmmmm, vampyrism or vampirism. Interesting subject one could say.
This subject happens to be one of the oldest studies around.

A very real thing i must say but at the same time one must ask themselves what are they looking for when they come across this sort of thing.

Firstly I would have to say that this term is largely placed with alot of mysticism and misconception. We are all vampires of a sort.

The meaning behind Vampirism in many circles and practices is translated into one who consumes the life force of another. Now depending on which circle of study you are in. There is alot of back story to this term to begin with.

The original vampire storys of these modern times originate from the dramaticized reign and legend of the notorious transylvanian ruler Vlad Tepes Dracula also known as Vlad the Impaler a translation of Tepes. A quite interesting study in himself.

Dracula as he has become known. Was a very harsh and unforgiving ruler. Having been known for killing thousands of people ranging in all ages aswell as numbers. Burning down whole villages and impaling thousands at a time. Many methods of torture and sadistic practices plague the Count and quite possibly all of them could be true,including the drinking of his victims blood and feeding people their friends and family.

Some myths and legends derived from the idea that Vlad had sold his soul to the devil for revenge on those who had once upsurped him. In actuality he removed much of the reigning families who had influience at the time.

Other accounts and stories are numerous. One interesting look into vampires is that of the demon vampyres of hell. Demon or devil spawn which would steal the souls and life force of those who stood in the way of satan in some account some demon lord of sorts in other accounts.


Getting to the many ideas behind what vampires are and what can stop them are interesting and to many do not hold much merit in certain circles.

First and foremost in the misconception of the myth about sunlight.See
The idea of the sun being able to damage or destroy vampires comes from the idea that the sun or SON of god has the power to stop them.This also goes along with the crucifix myth and the cant enter your house myth.

This is where it gets more interesting.Because this weighs up with many things tied into the bible.

See in older Vampiric and biblical lore it is stated that when able was killed by his brother Cain or Kain, Kayne even. Kain was damned by god, he was then doomed to walk the earth eternal. Thus becoming the first vampire.

Aswell it is stated in some circles that god killed Kain and satan offered Kain a deal to walk the earth collecting souls of the damned and the sinned to bring to hell. This is why the crucifix is able to stop a vampire.Due to the fact that you have accepted jesus into your heart and therefore live without sin,for jesus died for our sins giving us innocence in the eyes of god. Also why a vampire cant come into your house uninvited. For you have to invite a vampire into your house thus breaking the bond with god by inviting a demon into your house hold.


When looking at the deal or "collection" part of this study. One can sometimes see that vampires either release the persons soul by killing them,devouring their soul by drinking their blood,sucking out their lifeforce within their blood. At any rate the thing is they are damned by god and do the work of satan in this look at it..


In other looks into what vampirism is.We are all vampires.In the fact that we feed and live off of the life force of other life forms whether that be a vegetable, animal or in some cases (such as Vlad Tepes Dracula) cannibalsim. Not that i want to talk about that!!

Anyways hope that helps a bit...

Tor.



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reply posted on 10-5-2009 @ 11:24 AM by crimson616
reply to post by Bella-x



Bella, you seem like an intelligent enough individual. But even though you say we shouldn't be looking for ways to prove that vampires exist, it seems like maybe you might have your own personal proof for believing in them.
I was wondering if you knew anything about vampire bars. I know absolutely that there are several in Chicago, New York, San Francisco, and (once but not anymore) in New Orleans. But as my resources are limited only to the Arizona region, I was wondering if you, or anyone else, knows anything about one in Arizona. Tucson and Pheonix are both big cities with a lot of crime, and I find it very unlikely that there wouldn't be a vampire bar somewhere in this state, but it's just the actual act of locating it that is the problem.
If anyone has any information, I'd appreciate it
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