I do believe vampires exist. I've done a lot of research on that and it's impossible that someone can deny this fact.

I'd like to join them since I'm interested in them since I can remember, and I don't know the reason why, so that has to mean something. If you share the same interest don't hesitate to e-mail me.

Originally posted by amantine
Well, for vampires to live forever they need to make telomerase in every cell of their body. This is to repair the ends of the chromosomes, called telomeres. Something like that has not been observed in mammals.

If they need to drink blood they must have a need for a certain substance in the blood. It can't be any protein, because those are destroyed by enzymes. Maybe certain vitamines or minerals? There is a lot of iron in blood. Maybe they need iron? But any sort of blood is a good source of iron, not just human blood.

My opinion is that vampires are just a myth, considering the things I wrote above.

This is a horrible analysis. The jury is still out on whether telomerase will stop the aging process. It is a key player in aging but this by itself, namely the lack of production or distribution of telomerase to every cell, does not prove/disprove vampirism. It is trueno mammals have ever been observed to do this naturally. However, lab mice with artificial telomerase introduced to them system wide, developed cancer. It is much more likely telomerase will be part of a cancer cure.

Yes, the obvious fact is they would need a substance from blood. In the quote above the implication is there is nothing in blood that they could need and/or live on to survive. Two things pop in my analysis. The first is any mammal could live comfortably on blood where at the most they might need an additional enzyme. It is not the blood platelets themselves but the serum plasma that allows this satisfaction. Vampire bat anyone? They are as mammal as it comes. Secondly, if vampires do exist, analysing what they need from blood is pointless because we do not know their complete digestive system which may be different than normal humans. They might have enzymes, proteins, physical changes etc. that allow them to use or manipulate human/mammal blood. Again, the vampire bat is a good example of this in action. Therefore the comparison to normal digestion of blood is moot.

The two points brought up in the quote therefore do not prove/disprove vampirism.

Peace. Rick.

Edit: Typo.

[edit on 25-9-2009 by GTORick]

Originally posted by amantine

Originally posted by Pisky
I heard that there is a medical afflcition that causes people to need blood (Porphyria ?). Maybe they could get the same from vitamin pills ?

Porphyria is a disorder where the body can't make any or enough porphyrins, which are needed for the haem groups in your blood's hemoglobine. The problems lies with a deficiency of certain enzymes. I'm not sure if prophyrins would survive your stomach and intestins. I'm also not sure if they would be able to enter your bloodstroom either through passive transport (highly unlikely) or active transport (I don't think your body has the enzymes required for getting a substance that a normal person never needs through the cell membrane). Injection of the enzymes required is the usual treatement, if I'm correct.

If it is still bound to the Fe ion my best guess is that it would actively absorb through the stomach lining. If it is an analogue or ionic it would be acidic so reuptake probably would not occur. Although complex and binding with other ions, the porphyrin molecules are essentially inert although slightly acidic. Porphyria is a horrible disease.

Look, I'm big fan of vampires and any other races but there's no actual evidence, no photos or documentaries. Further more I live in transylvania and guess what I never ever saw a vampire, though my thirst for power is so great that I would even give away my soul, not to mention that I would be very loyal to my "creator" if a vampire would turn me as well... but sadly there's no such things... maybe just hybrids that run out from some labs.

Cheers,
Chris

Originally posted by scatter
I really really don't think so.
The only "vampire" that could possibly exist would be a normal human being who watched too much fiction as an impressionable child and has and acute case of wanting attention off other people. Those sorts of mentally Ill people will go that far with their fantasy that they will file their front teeth just the have the visual effect and will sometimes even drink blood if they're that far gone.

i know what you mean. i di a project in psychology on Rod ferrel and the kentucky vampire clan, some people are just plain crazy

If vampires exist in my humble opinion they would keep a very low profile. Maybe use the wannabees as cover. Legend comes from
somewhere. It may get exagerated thru the years but i comes from
somewhere

Originally posted by Zul007

Originally posted by hesphastus
It may get exagerated thru the years but i comes from
somewhere

"Efthimiou supposed that the first vampire arrived Jan. 1, 1600, when the human population was 536,870,911. Assuming that the vampire fed once a month and the victim turned into a vampire, there would be two vampires and 536,870,910 humans on Feb. 1. There would be four vampires on March 1 and eight on April 1. If this trend continued, all of the original humans would become vampires within two and a half years and the vampires' food source would disappear."

heres a thought according to legends you don't become a vampire just because one bit you you become a vampire if they choose to 'sire' you
which consists of draining you of most of your blood then feeding you some of their's

I've posted this in numerous other threads. If vampires(the traditional mythological vampire) exist, it is not medically possible for a human being to be transformed into one. The modifications to the stomach, liver and kidneys would be impossible to obtain. And to achieve enough nutritional sustinance a human vamp would have to drain 18 humans per day. They'd also have to urinate while they fed.

All these vampire groups are people who are roleplaying or have a legitimate mental illness.

If real vampires exist they are an undiscovered species(nonhuman). Most blood feeders are tiny. So it would be rather remarkable.

Originally posted by DeusEx

Originally posted by cheshire cat
Sure, in a way I believe that they exist. There have been reports of them in New Orleans.
Just to beat A LOT of people to the punch, I doubt they flocked there after Anne Rice's novels.
If you have ever been to New Orleans, you can back me up on the fact that weird stuff goes on there. I remember being only 8 years old and going through the VOODOO museum.

Anne Rice? What a HACK! Want great reading, and all of rice's explicit sexuality? pick up some Poppy z. Bryte.

And Yes, N'Orleans is a big ol' center of craziness. Little chalk X's on graves, hougans and mambos advertising- It's wierd and creepy and where it's at if you're into the supernatural.

DE

Anne Rice is *not* a hack!

I don't think there is such things as real vampires, but hey, weirder things have happened right? What I'd like to ask is just lately I keep hearing the phrase 'psychic vampires' could someone please explain to me what is meant by this. Thanks

Originally posted by DeusEx
Yeah, there's plenty of people who qualified as sick enough to call themselves vampires. Ol' Vlad, Elizabeth Bathory...

I believe, Elizabeth Bathory is the closest historical figure you will find to the Vampire Image...

Its interesting how far back the vampire legend goes. The first vampire story starts in Sumer and its still around. Something happened in the past that made people believe it was possible. If they are still around, its probably a very underground thing. I don't imagine there would be many of them left.