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Do Real Vampires Exist?


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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 02:56 PM by Merticus


If you want the skinny on "real vampirism" & the "real vampire community"...

Vampires Today: The Truth About Modern Vampirism
Joseph Laycock


The long-term academic and sociological significance of this work can't be underscored enough. Joseph Laycock offers a sweeping scholarly examination of the vampire community and the process of self-identification as a vampire. He counters many of the negative stereotypes of the vampire community and posits thought-provoking arguments regarding ontological diversity. Some of the repudiated claims include those made by Keyworth (vampirism is best described as a new religious movement), Perlmutter (vampires represent a dangerous cult), and popular culture (vampires are all disillusioned youth living a fantasy).

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Chapter 1: What Is a Vampire? or, The Varieties of Vampiric Experience
Chapter 2: Why Vampires?
Chapter 3: The Vampire Milieu
Chapter 4: Initiatory Vampire Groups: Vampirism as Apotheosis
Chapter 5: The Vampire Community
Chapter 6: Vampirism and Religion, a Dialogue
Chapter 7: Out of the Shadows
Chapter 8: Vampires and the Modern
Bibliography & Index

Sample Of Material From The Index:

Atlanta Vampire Alliance, Black Veil, Catherine Ramsland, Christopher Partridge, Clan Hidden Shadows, Corvis Nocturnum, Daemonox, Damien Deville, Dawn Perlmutter, D'Drennan, Don Henrie, Eclecta, Elizabeth Miller, Emile Durkheim, Father Sebastiaan, Father Vincent, Goddess Rosemary, House Dark Haven, House Eclipse, House Kheperu, House of the Dreaming, House Pantheon, House Quinotaur, House Sahjaza, Ian Hacking, J. Gordon Melton, Jeff Guinn, Kiera, Konstantinos, Lady CG, Lady Dark Rose, Lord Alistair, Lupa, Madame X, Maloryn, Martin Riccardo, Merticus, Michael Foucault, Michelle Belanger, Ordo Sekhemu, Ordo Strigoi Vii, Order of the Vampyre, Rosemary Ellen Guiley, Sanguinarius, Sarah Dorrance, Shadowlore, Sky, SoulSplat, SphynxCatVP, Stephen O'Mallie, Stephen Held, Suscitatio Enterprises, Temple of the Vampire, Twilight, Vampire Church, Vampirism & Energy Work Research Study, Vicutus, Vlad, Voices of the Vampire Community, Vyrdolak, Zilchy



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reply posted on 15-7-2009 @ 03:19 PM by nat101


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wow !!! I'm in the page and people say they have seen the angel of death and they tell their stories..

Check it out...spooky!



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reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 12:47 PM by AdrianCain


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there is a chance that they could exist,u always see that they're not believed in at the start but then they're exposed,i honestly hope they do exist



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reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 06:31 AM by icnight


I do believe vampires exist. I've done a lot of research on that and it's impossible that someone can deny this fact.

I'd like to join them since I'm interested in them since I can remember, and I don't know the reason why, so that has to mean something. If you share the same interest don't hesitate to e-mail me.



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reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 12:56 PM by October


I just had a quick scan of this thread so i'm not sure if this story has been posted but a few miles from where i live in the uk there is a famous story of the Croglin vampire:

www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk...



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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 05:29 AM by GTORick


Originally posted by amantine
Well, for vampires to live forever they need to make telomerase in every cell of their body. This is to repair the ends of the chromosomes, called telomeres. Something like that has not been observed in mammals.

If they need to drink blood they must have a need for a certain substance in the blood. It can't be any protein, because those are destroyed by enzymes. Maybe certain vitamines or minerals? There is a lot of iron in blood. Maybe they need iron? But any sort of blood is a good source of iron, not just human blood.

My opinion is that vampires are just a myth, considering the things I wrote above.


This is a horrible analysis. The jury is still out on whether telomerase will stop the aging process. It is a key player in aging but this by itself, namely the lack of production or distribution of telomerase to every cell, does not prove/disprove vampirism. It is trueno mammals have ever been observed to do this naturally. However, lab mice with artificial telomerase introduced to them system wide, developed cancer. It is much more likely telomerase will be part of a cancer cure.

Yes, the obvious fact is they would need a substance from blood. In the quote above the implication is there is nothing in blood that they could need and/or live on to survive. Two things pop in my analysis. The first is any mammal could live comfortably on blood where at the most they might need an additional enzyme. It is not the blood platelets themselves but the serum plasma that allows this satisfaction. Vampire bat anyone? They are as mammal as it comes. Secondly, if vampires do exist, analysing what they need from blood is pointless because we do not know their complete digestive system which may be different than normal humans. They might have enzymes, proteins, physical changes etc. that allow them to use or manipulate human/mammal blood. Again, the vampire bat is a good example of this in action. Therefore the comparison to normal digestion of blood is moot.

The two points brought up in the quote therefore do not prove/disprove vampirism.

Peace. Rick.

Edit: Typo.

[edit on 25-9-2009 by GTORick]



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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 05:47 AM by GTORick


Originally posted by amantine
Originally posted by Pisky
I heard that there is a medical afflcition that causes people to need blood (Porphyria ?). Maybe they could get the same from vitamin pills ?


Porphyria is a disorder where the body can't make any or enough porphyrins, which are needed for the haem groups in your blood's hemoglobine. The problems lies with a deficiency of certain enzymes. I'm not sure if prophyrins would survive your stomach and intestins. I'm also not sure if they would be able to enter your bloodstroom either through passive transport (highly unlikely) or active transport (I don't think your body has the enzymes required for getting a substance that a normal person never needs through the cell membrane). Injection of the enzymes required is the usual treatement, if I'm correct.


If it is still bound to the Fe ion my best guess is that it would actively absorb through the stomach lining. If it is an analogue or ionic it would be acidic so reuptake probably would not occur. Although complex and binding with other ions, the porphyrin molecules are essentially inert although slightly acidic. Porphyria is a horrible disease.



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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 08:18 AM by vampfan


Look, I'm big fan of vampires and any other races but there's no actual evidence, no photos or documentaries. Further more I live in transylvania and guess what I never ever saw a vampire, though my thirst for power is so great that I would even give away my soul, not to mention that I would be very loyal to my "creator" if a vampire would turn me as well... but sadly there's no such things... maybe just hybrids that run out from some labs.

Cheers,
Chris



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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 08:57 AM by TheCoffinman


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Rhode Island's Vampires

"I am waiting and watching for you" - Nelly Vaughn, Vampire



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