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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 02:56 PM by Merticus
If you want the skinny on "real vampirism" & the "real vampire community"...

Vampires Today: The Truth About Modern Vampirism
Joseph Laycock


The long-term academic and sociological significance of this work can't be underscored enough. Joseph Laycock offers a sweeping scholarly examination of the vampire community and the process of self-identification as a vampire. He counters many of the negative stereotypes of the vampire community and posits thought-provoking arguments regarding ontological diversity. Some of the repudiated claims include those made by Keyworth (vampirism is best described as a new religious movement), Perlmutter (vampires represent a dangerous cult), and popular culture (vampires are all disillusioned youth living a fantasy).

Amazon:
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Barnes & Noble: search.barnesandnoble.com...

Praeger Publishers: www.abc-clio.com... *or* ABC-CLIO @ Telephone 800.368.6868, 7:00 AM - 4:30 PM (PST)

* This book is primarily aimed towards academicians, scholars, and professionals who are referencing information on the vampire subculture. Distribution will be primarily to universities and libraries; not the general public unless individuals assist with such.

Religion Dispatches Article: www.religiondispatches.org...

Chapter 1: What Is a Vampire? or, The Varieties of Vampiric Experience
Chapter 2: Why Vampires?
Chapter 3: The Vampire Milieu
Chapter 4: Initiatory Vampire Groups: Vampirism as Apotheosis
Chapter 5: The Vampire Community
Chapter 6: Vampirism and Religion, a Dialogue
Chapter 7: Out of the Shadows
Chapter 8: Vampires and the Modern
Bibliography & Index

Sample Of Material From The Index:

Atlanta Vampire Alliance, Black Veil, Catherine Ramsland, Christopher Partridge, Clan Hidden Shadows, Corvis Nocturnum, Daemonox, Damien Deville, Dawn Perlmutter, D'Drennan, Don Henrie, Eclecta, Elizabeth Miller, Emile Durkheim, Father Sebastiaan, Father Vincent, Goddess Rosemary, House Dark Haven, House Eclipse, House Kheperu, House of the Dreaming, House Pantheon, House Quinotaur, House Sahjaza, Ian Hacking, J. Gordon Melton, Jeff Guinn, Kiera, Konstantinos, Lady CG, Lady Dark Rose, Lord Alistair, Lupa, Madame X, Maloryn, Martin Riccardo, Merticus, Michael Foucault, Michelle Belanger, Ordo Sekhemu, Ordo Strigoi Vii, Order of the Vampyre, Rosemary Ellen Guiley, Sanguinarius, Sarah Dorrance, Shadowlore, Sky, SoulSplat, SphynxCatVP, Stephen O'Mallie, Stephen Held, Suscitatio Enterprises, Temple of the Vampire, Twilight, Vampire Church, Vampirism & Energy Work Research Study, Vicutus, Vlad, Voices of the Vampire Community, Vyrdolak, Zilchy


reply posted on 15-7-2009 @ 03:19 PM by nat101
reply to post by Pisky



wow !!! I'm in the page and people say they have seen the angel of death and they tell their stories..

Check it out...spooky!


reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 12:47 PM by AdrianCain
reply to post by Cassie Clay



there is a chance that they could exist,u always see that they're not believed in at the start but then they're exposed,i honestly hope they do exist



reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 05:29 AM by GTORick
Originally posted by amantine
Well, for vampires to live forever they need to make telomerase in every cell of their body. This is to repair the ends of the chromosomes, called telomeres. Something like that has not been observed in mammals.

If they need to drink blood they must have a need for a certain substance in the blood. It can't be any protein, because those are destroyed by enzymes. Maybe certain vitamines or minerals? There is a lot of iron in blood. Maybe they need iron? But any sort of blood is a good source of iron, not just human blood.

My opinion is that vampires are just a myth, considering the things I wrote above.


This is a horrible analysis. The jury is still out on whether telomerase will stop the aging process. It is a key player in aging but this by itself, namely the lack of production or distribution of telomerase to every cell, does not prove/disprove vampirism. It is trueno mammals have ever been observed to do this naturally. However, lab mice with artificial telomerase introduced to them system wide, developed cancer. It is much more likely telomerase will be part of a cancer cure.

Yes, the obvious fact is they would need a substance from blood. In the quote above the implication is there is nothing in blood that they could need and/or live on to survive. Two things pop in my analysis. The first is any mammal could live comfortably on blood where at the most they might need an additional enzyme. It is not the blood platelets themselves but the serum plasma that allows this satisfaction. Vampire bat anyone? They are as mammal as it comes. Secondly, if vampires do exist, analysing what they need from blood is pointless because we do not know their complete digestive system which may be different than normal humans. They might have enzymes, proteins, physical changes etc. that allow them to use or manipulate human/mammal blood. Again, the vampire bat is a good example of this in action. Therefore the comparison to normal digestion of blood is moot.

The two points brought up in the quote therefore do not prove/disprove vampirism.

Peace. Rick.

Edit: Typo.

[edit on 25-9-2009 by GTORick]


reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 08:57 AM by TheCoffinman
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Rhode Island's Vampires

"I am waiting and watching for you" - Nelly Vaughn, Vampire


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 03:06 PM by Zul007
Originally posted by hesphastus
It may get exagerated thru the years but i comes from
somewhere


It comes from people having to open mass graves during the plague (to bury more people) and seeing that through normal decomposition, blood coming out of their orifices and their stomachs being bloated from gas, and coming to the conclusion that they must have rose from the dead and drank peoples blood to the point where they were so full that their stomachs popped out and blood came oozing out of them.

Here is the mathematical PROOF that vampires cannot exist as described:

www.scientificblogging.com...

"Efthimiou supposed that the first vampire arrived Jan. 1, 1600, when the human population was 536,870,911. Assuming that the vampire fed once a month and the victim turned into a vampire, there would be two vampires and 536,870,910 humans on Feb. 1. There would be four vampires on March 1 and eight on April 1. If this trend continued, all of the original humans would become vampires within two and a half years and the vampires' food source would disappear."


reply posted on 3-4-2010 @ 01:05 PM by pr0digy
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They may not be able to exsist as you've described, but thats not where the story of the vampire comes from, not the origin anyway, vampires and vampire like creatures are in many culture throughout the world dating back far before the times the plague.

-pr0digy


reply posted on 6-6-2010 @ 01:59 PM by lil_hughes1215
reply to post by Cassie Clay



ok. ive done something quite simular to what you have. i have been researching this for a long time now. And i once decided that they did not existand werent real. but now that i have studied it alot longer i have come to the conclsion that they do exist and they are real. My theroy is that they are all amongst us but they fit in with us better than we expectthem to. i think that f we knew excactly what to look for we would see and reconize them. I think that when we think of "vampire" we think the stero type. like what they make them look like in movies and books. but i do blieve that they do excist and they are real.

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