Fallen Angels Are Not Too Smart!

The capacity for human discovery by our intelligence may have been a very deciding factor in that the human race had its life span reduced several times since our creation. It must have been overly depressive to some of those fallen angels to realize just how good we humans really are. From a thousand years to five hundred, then to half that, then that is cut in half. But that was still too easy for the humans and too many were rationalizing out what was going on with theses strange visitors. We ended up with our life span of between seventy and eighty years still being enough to figure it out and comprehend quickly the true magnitude of a universal sovereignty. Well, some do. Thus, I give the innocuous and infamous single finger salute to you fallen angels. It�s our turn now mutha.

There was a time when these fallen ones freely roamed the galaxies, but that time has come to an end. They can�t even get off planet anymore because of the �winners� that threw these fallen ones down to the earth are still out there. This is just part of the extrapolations that can be drawn from what is know today of modern ufology and ET investigations. As it is written, their time is short, hell people, the cat is out of the bag and were stepping in it�s doo doo.

Fortunately for explorers, trailblazers, trackers, investigators, and detectives the rules of engagement are different than for those that are of the scientist and religionist minds set that wonder at what happened. We don�t get stuck on the stepping stones of the path but push on with the clues and evidence to discovery. Many are discovering the tie between the old ancient writings and legends and the modern ET of today�s understanding. The only thing changing is our technological comprehension level, which has gone way up. With deception recognized maybe we can side step the crap and get on with discovery and disclosure.

Well, my stance on your points of the last post are as follows:

I do believe there have been at least two great cycles as testified by the Bible. BUT, I believe if you read carefully it describes at least THREE great cycles and possibly FIVE - each cycle containing hints of having to "start over" due to some type of catastrophe; each possibly hinting at a technological development that was advanced just prior to the catastrophe.

1. The first cycle could have been up to the expulsion from the Garden. That Adam and Eve (and any children born prior to the fall - which we haven't a clue what time passed before this) were at least spiritually advanced cannot be denied if accepting the scriptures. They were able to commune with God. There's only been a couple of people since then that have been able to do this in some diminished fashion. (By the way, there is no reason to believe that no children were born prior to the fall as the curse of childbearing placed upon Eve was only that it would cause great travail - great pain.)

2. The second occurs at the Flood and we, of course, are discussing the implications of the verses dealing with this time in both this thread and mine:

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3. The next is hinted at in Genesis 10:25: "Two sons were born to Eber: (

For evidence of the ancient fallen ones being today�s ET�s try looking at ancient paintings and artwork. Another good one is the information the church didn�t get to or destroy of astronomy from the past. There are great stories wrote down about strangers visiting earth too.

Seek, and you will find Seekerof.

I have just posted in my Nephilim thread some things that might be considered as further "mythological" pointers toward some hybrid race creation.

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The question I posed in this thread is not are Angels indeed ET�s but the assumption that these ET ones or other races were and are more intelligent than humans, specifically the Fallen Ones, also no citation is required.

I'm not sure if angels are more iantelligent than humans. They are no doubt more privy to the workings and creation of the universe because, over time, humanity's understanding of everything in general has been purposefully skewed by satan. But that's not to say their CAPACITY for understanding or intelligence is more. It could be, but I don't know how one could be sure, since we all live in times that are a result of an unknown, incredible number of years of deception and forgetting. So we don't know our exact potential or capabilities.

Originally posted by FieryIce1

The issue of �Are angels really ET�s� has been explored over the years and there appears to be two camps, those that recognize this as fact and those that never will. This thread and topic as it sits now illustrates the fact of those that can and do understand and those that don�t.

How do you define ET's? I would contend that it's not that angels are ET's, but that ET's are angels, that is, the fallen angels. In other words, I don't think they are aliens as in from other planets, but are simply posing to appear so. Don't get me wrong, I definitely believe there is an alien phenomena going on (just look and listen to people all around you) but they are fallens messing with us. They are bound to earth anyway. I don't think true ET's (from other planets, if they exist) and angels are synonymous. According to the bible, angels reside in heaven. And no, it doesn't just mean the sky or space. So they wouldn't be buzzing around in UFO's. The only way they are linked is that the fallens are, again, posing to be ET's in the sense that we think of them from other planets.

Well at least yer thinking some Simple Truth, and it would be a great deception to get humans thinking they are not really one and the same,, ET's are REALLY Angels and Fallen angels both. Like humans, some good and some yah just want to burn.

Originally posted by ET3
Well at least yer thinking some Simple Truth, and it would be a great deception to get humans thinking they are not really one and the same,, ET's are REALLY Angels and Fallen angels both. Like humans, some good and some yah just want to burn.

Wait, so are you agreeing with me or not? I didn't really understand what you said, especially the last sentence. Sorry, I'm probably just really slow this morning.

If the information is not directly about the premise and is not stated in this thread then there is no relevance. I personally would not expect a reader to flip through threads when a few words in the original post would suffice. Isn�t that adding to confusion? ET3 in his post points out where the evidence and proof can be found.
Valhall don�t get me wrong your posts are great, I do like your P.S. statement above also.
What the Nephilim were or are I don�t have any difficulty with so I see no need for myself to discuss or debate it.
Discovery and understanding has to be done on an individual bases or they will not believe what they have found.

Originally posted by ET3
Well at least yer thinking some Simple Truth.

It would be a great deception to get humans thinking they are not really one and the same.

ET's are REALLY Angels and Fallen angels both.

Like humans, some good and some yah just want to burn.


Does that help?

FieryIce makes some good points I think.

Val makes a good point in the Nephelim thread, yet fallen ones have this need to breed, with humans for some reason. Genetic splicing is another way of putting it. You see, we were designed and genetically equipped with the very �qualities� of our Creator. The other ancient races of the galaxies were not.

It must have been overly depressive to some of those fallen angels to realize just how good we humans really are. From a thousand years to five hundred, then to half that, then that is cut in half. But that was still too easy for the humans and too many were rationalizing out what was going on with theses strange visitors. We ended up with our life span of between seventy and eighty years still being enough to figure it out and comprehend quickly the true magnitude of a universal sovereignty

we were designed and genetically equipped with the very "qualities" of our Creator. The other ancient races of the galaxies were not.

At the tower of Babel, humans were stopped from reaching the heavens; their language was changed or divided into several different languages because nothing was impossible for these humans.

So the changing of our language because nothing was impossible, drastically decreasing our life span and genetically equipped with the very �qualities� of our Creator, illustrates human intelligence and potential exceeds that of the fallen angel�s/ET�s. So this deception and conspiracy has been going on for a long time, guess the cat is out of the bag now.

These fallen ones cannot run back to Daddy whining, �Waaa Waaaa Waa Waaa�.

It does explain in part why these fallen ones would want human DNA to mix with their own.

Originally posted by ET3
For evidence of the ancient fallen ones being today�s ET�s try looking at ancient paintings and artwork. Another good one is the information the church didn�t get to or destroy of astronomy from the past. There are great stories wrote down about strangers visiting earth too.

Seek, and you will find Seekerof.

You know ET3, anybody that presents a hypothesis is the one that needs to back the assertion. My counter evidences are available as soon as you produce yours, I mean after all, it is a number of members here that are the ones making the assertions or presenting the hypothesis, with no backing whatsoever?

How about you seek and present?


seekerof

[Edited on 21-3-2004 by Seekerof]

The thread �fallen angels are not too smart� is about the accepted facts based on what some have already accepted as fact. It is not a rehash of past research and exploration into this topic, or where the information was from. I know I have read hundreds of sites and a few of those are now gone from the net. Besides again, that is not the thread topic.

These ET�s or fallen angels, what ever, seem highly interested in human DNA, and bull anuses. They are said to be deceivers, liars, slanderers, and with all the information and BS cover up, I would have to agree.

That this kind of topic was never brought up as a thread is most interesting. Most are of the mind set that ET will be smarter, more intelligent, have great societal skills and philosophies. Not according to the bible and many tales of dealings with these ET�s that were cast down to the earth. That the bible has it in writing, although very ancient and in very old languages with very few words, it gives the tale of who, what and why they and we are here.

Me personally, well hell, I am just an explorer, turning over a few rocks here and there to see what�s under them. Picking up clues and there, watching the Information Control agents from the various clandestine groups on these forums do their dirty work of deception and confusion. Seen any around? Most are like the fallen ones, not too smart.

ET3 brings up a very important issue not only are there the fallen ones from different races but their co-conspirators even within the human race. So there are fallen one sympathizer's from our own race.

So these Information Control Agents are not your friend but fallen ET sympathizer�s, traitors of the human race.
Traitors!!!

Where is my flare gun? Let�s see if they glow in the dark!

The ancient dragon, would he be of a reptilian species? Wouldn�t a reptilian mentality be for the most part survival and elevating their species in the food chain to facilitate this survival? Where as the human thought processes are more complex and humans will sacrifice themselves for a loved one.
Isn�t this a big difference in intelligence?

see the book of daniel. chaper 10. it talks of gabriel fighting the prince of persia (i wonder if the video game title has a grain of truth in it?) and being detained 21 days. the princes of that chapter are angels, being in charge of certain territory(or races of people) on earth. those rebelling are still fighting over earth. those princes spirit influences the people they have power over.



satan lost heaven, but there is still fighting on earth. he can go to god with audience as in the book of job, and walks to and fro among the earth.

Originally posted by NuTroll
see the book of daniel. chaper 10. it talks of gabriel fighting the prince of persia (i wonder if the video game title has a grain of truth in it?) and being detained 21 days. the princes of that chapter are angels, being in charge of certain territory(or races of people) on earth. those rebelling are still fighting over earth. those princes spirit influences the people they have power over.



satan lost heaven, but there is still fighting on earth. he can go to god with audience as in the book of job, and walks to and fro among the earth.

Off topic but Satan lost his right to go back to the heavens in Rev., Michael kicked his butt all the way to earth. Satan/Lucifer, whatever, cannot leave, he is the loser.
I don't see how you get the idea these angel/ET's were given charge over us humans.

Now if you want to further this to see how the assumption comes about that these fallen angel/ET's are more intelligent than humans....

Greetings folks! I was glad to find this thread here. Inspired me to join the site, it did. I'd like to address this post to

SEEKEROF:

What exactly would qualify in your opinion as substantiated proof? Perhaps the writings of scholars 2000+ years ago, the compiled archaeological evidence that supports pseudepigrapha? A personal visitation from an *ahem* Extra terrestrial? A long-winded treatise on original hebrew, greek, chaldean, sumerian, aramaic langauges as they relate to the topic in the texts religious and/or mythological?

I think you meant the word wise perhaps? Fallen angels are not too wise?

I believe our dwindling life spans are contributed on our diet and lifestyle.

[Edited on 5-15-2004 by Cearbhall]

Originally posted by FieryIce1
...Why do people automatically equate technologies with intelligence?
What are some of the behavior, thought processes and mannerism specific to ET�s?
How do these differences from human behavior, thought processes and mannerism result in the assumption these ET�s are more intelligent?
Identify some of the specific differences then see how this applies to a higher level of intelligence than humans.

Some abductees report that their abductors behavior is perfunctory with disinterest and impersonal, as if just following orders and no emotional responses to humans in pain, like they wondered at humans pain.

This is a BRRRRRRRRRRRILLIANT post!

Now, I was thinking that maybe, just perhaps that some of those so called fallen angels who are the creators of the aliens, who have bodies now, are capable themselves of being forgiven for their inconsideracies toward God, and that now Jesus's blood can wash those souls clean who so desire to be with Him once again.

After all, it does mention in the Revelations, saying (in my own words), 'and who are those? over there?'
Do you know which phrase I mean?

[There are some just absolutely brilliant posts in this post]

[Edited on 5/15/2004 by SamaraMorgueAnn]