Originally posted by iamcanadian2
Office4256 said: "you don't buy it"....you say you don't buy yet in your previous post you said you would be on the receiving end of a bullet if you talked about the position you held and 'job' you performed many years ago. So if you do not buy it, why are you fearful about talking about it? Could it be that you do believe in the back of your mind that this crap does exist on a grand scale?

I read his post too... what I got was that he doesn't buy the SCALE you claim, not that it doesn't exist...

As I posted in the other thread I don't either.. IF it was on such a grand scale simple logistics come into play.. these guys would be spotted on every street corner and vans would be on everyones street...

If one is a target of any surveillance and is aware of it ... they will naturally spot those following them etc, but at the same time they will also see spys in every corner...

You may indeed have many shadows... and volunteer COP's can get pretty zealous... but the scale that I see talked about in these threads with everyone sure that they have vans following them and spying on them for what they say at ATS etc... is just not practical... we would need 2 spooks for every citizen for that to be the case and then who is watching them?

Originally posted by Retseh
And of course you:

a. Didn't get the license tag number;

b. Didn't get a photo/video of the car or passenger; and

c. Didn't call the police.

Ahh the Internet, 'tis a wonderful playground for the gullible.

When you first discover that you may be under some kind of surveillance it is very shocking and you do not think clearly when your attention is drawn to it. You are so blown away by what you are seeing that you do not take pictures and do not jot down license plate numbers you are flabbergasted by the thought that 'you' the ordinary tax paying citizen could possibly have done anything to cause this unwanted attention.

It took years of this crap happening to me and the introduction of the digital camera before I started to take photos of the perpetrators.

Retseh said:
"Ahh the Internet, 'tis a wonderful playground for the gullible."

Give the OP a break, he is reporting what happened to him in a rational manner and he is looking at all the possible scenarios for this most recent incident.

Perhaps you are witnessing terrorists surveying an area for some kind of attack. This is their calling card

Clearly you have duty to your family and your country to report this to the police or the proper Authorities.

If you think they really are terrorists don't be afraid to call Homeland Security or the National Security Agency - of course this is in a worst case scenario.

Preferably you should call the Police as soon as it happens again.

Do you want your negligence to be responsible for the next attack? The terrorists could strike at any moment. The terror alert level is Orange!

You really should re-examine your priorities as this could very well be a threat not only to you but to your country. I recommend you start with Crime Stoppers. This sounds like it might potentially be serious.

Or perhaps it's just a wierd old man with no other hobbies than taking pictures of other peoples property?

It's is a possebility like all other things suggested here.
Personally I would also be kinda freaked out if I saw someone sitting in their car taking picture of my property. Don't know how I actually would react to something like this, probably because it haven't... at least not as I am familiar with or know of at this moment.. happened to me.

But yeah. a strange event... would definitely be sitting with some paranoid thoughts after something like this..

Well one thing I have noticed in this thread...

with all the possible situations given like R/E, PI foreclosure, divorce.. etc etc...

The OP has not volunteered any info that MIGHT point to a reason he is being watched



Well great things happening on the disclosure front... so I'm outta here

TTFN

and keep looking out the window and over your shoulder...

I am sure 'they' are there

Maybe it was the insurance company. Today they routinely take pictures of houses and cars.

A government field agent would have been younger and in a newer, bigger car.

A recent Rense article claimed that Google was setting out to photograph the front of every house in the UK. (Probably underwritten by M5/NSA.)

Depends on what you've posted. Look, you're on a public forum that if its not monitored directly by some agency then Eschelon is picking up on key words, since that's what it's meant to do. If you really want to have some fun with them get into maverick research, apply for patents on some of your research and post some "basement experiment" results on the web. Heck, they're only taking pictures? Have Los Alamos in your house sometime. They won't want to stop or arrest you, just pick your brains (for free, by the way).

And don't forget to e-mail Dr. John Hutchison up in Canada while you're at it. OR...

Maybe the local govt is simply getting ready to reappraise and raise the property taxes. They snap pics of properties from the street too. How anticlimactic......life is so humdrum sometimes.

[edit on 24-7-2008 by ibgrimme]

i have, and maybe still are under some sort of surveillance, been going on nw since about 2003-4, quite scary for a few years no one believed me, even ended up in hospital over it, then i got smart and started to gather evidence, photos, descriptions of the people following me, and the one thing that sticks out the most.

of all the number plates i have noted down, about 15 all up over that time. and i;ll admit not every one is connected to the surveillance, but i would say, the majority of them, when i get them checked out at the post office, and this only costs about $2.75 NZ dollars to do, come back to a different vehicle to the one that i so with the plate on.
so getting plates won't give you the information you require, but it will let you know that those vehicles are involved some how.

i remember this one time i had a guy kept popping up, all over the place, always the same hat and sunglasses, same van, made out to be a trades mans van, plasterer to be precise, his t-shirt andpants, were covered in plaster splashes, but his shoes were always clean, even his arms and hands..

Did you solve the mystery?
Sometimes landlords plan to sell a house and deny it to the tennants when asked.

Years ago, early 90's I think, a guy in a big truck parked in front of a home we were renting. I did ask my landlord later and he said he knew nothing about it and the house wasn't going up for sale.

Anyways I was just about to mow the lawn and he was parked on the grass. I started mowing, thinking he was just parked for a bit to do whatever, but as I got closer he was still there and in my way. He kept staring at my house at what appeared to be the roof section or power lines. I approached the driver's side to ask him to move. He had his head down not seeing me, but as soon as he saw me beside his door, he quickly slammed down a cover over a screen/monitor that appeared to be inset on the dashboard. I don't know if they had laptops back then and if they do, why was the screen on the bottom and inset into the dash? The screen was aqua coloured with some text, that I couldn't read, he slammed it too fast. I asked him nicely to move, but he just ignored me. So I went back to mowing, thinking he would eventually have to move. I even stopped mowing halfway and went inside, waiting for him to go, because I didn't like him sitting and staring at me and my home.

He wouldn't leave, so I went back to him and asked him what he was doing, why was he staring at my house. He just said "nothing". I was quite inquisitive, but he wouldn't respond. I told him he was in my way and if whatever he was doing had nothing to do with my home, to go park on the other side of the street, or better yet use the parking lot across the street. I don't recall the exact event now, but I more or less became very stern with him and said go away you're annoyong me and being intrusive. Finally he drove into the parking lot, and continued staring. I must have asked him 3 times to move off the grass.

The thing that bothered me most was that screen I saw. It was the size of an average size computer monitor, and when he closed it, it was flush with his dashboard and hidden, and him staring at the roof where the power lines connect, like he was studying or programming something.

A few months later, I think, when we were out one night we came home to our front door smashed in. It was wide open, but nothing was stolen or moved. Later when I went to open a kitchen cupboard, one of the doors wouldn't open. I noticed an inch wide gap where the cupboards join in the corner that was causing it not to open, because it no longer fit. We couldn't figure out how this happened, and concluded the intruder might have jumped up onto the units to see what, if anything was on top of them. But that hardly made sense. It had simply shifted the entire row of cupboards, and never did get fixed. The landlord fixed the front door, but was mystified by the cupboard shift.