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John McCain's chief economic advisor Phil Gramm is a failed pornography producer

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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 07:44 PM
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www.thenation.com...

This is just too bizarre to make up.

I wonder what James Dobson, Pat Robertson, etc would have to say on this?




posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 07:58 PM
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I don't know if he was a failed pornographic producer. More like a failed pornographic investor.

Note to self: Don't take investment advice from Phil Gramm.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 08:19 AM
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Well, Obama's mentor and spiritual adviser of 20 years is a racist hate monger. So, there ya go.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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What is wrong with Pornography?

Our nation really needs to get past being upset at the images of naked human bodies... or agasp at the totally natural act of sex.

People have sex, and some people video tape it.....
We can't even have topless advertisements in magazines like Europe does.

This again shows how our nation is growing way too politically correct.
I still think its okay to offend some people. The world is a tough place, and those "wusses" really need to grow a thick skin.

I guess people would much rather complain about something, rather than change the channel or turn the page. Complaining and getting offended makes people seem important.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:08 AM
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Softcore porn from that era was less titillating than a women's beach volleyball tournament.

I'm no Phil Gramm fan, but this is the non-issue of the year.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:17 AM
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Mccain is Insane.

He is old and not very smart. You can see his mentality slipping and i know 3 year olds that lie better.

If he wins the election there will be bloods on the streets of america and iran possibly across the world.

If he wins it was bacuse of Diebold rigging the elections.

Dont vote for McCain unless you want to kill whats left of United states. , If you hate bush, like humans, iranians, and people of colour.


I already made plans to move out of North America is this senile, insane, whackjob wins the election. I suggest you do the same.

McCain is like bush, but he doesnt care as much.

May your god be with you all for you will need.

Dont vote for McCain.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Dronetek
Well, Obama's mentor and spiritual adviser of 20 years is a racist hate monger. So, there ya go.




Your obviously uneducated in these matters. Sitting infront of your t.v all day long has made you ignorant to the whole truth.

If you researched these allegtions against his pastor you will see it was taken out of context and clipped to smear the Obama campaign.

Ignorance is alive and well.


[edit on 18-7-2008 by IvanZana]

[edit on 18-7-2008 by IvanZana]



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:26 AM
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It seems to me that just about EVERYBODY makes money in the porn industry. Even idiots. What does it say about a supposed "Economic Advisers" business accumen if he is the only one who doesn't?



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:30 AM
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It is an abuse of the pulpit to preach politics and whether Wright is screaming and shucking and jiving or standing still and speaking in a whisper his politics are both hateful and out of place.

The IRS should clamp down on all the churches that use their tax-exempt status to preach politics, but alas, it does not seem to be very high on the agenda.

You're assessment of John McCain is inaccurate, hateful, and hypocritical.

Ageism is no less offensive than racism or sexism.

[edit on 2008/7/18 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
reply to post by IvanZana
 
Ageism is no less offensive than racism or sexism.


Grady, now that is a hot topic for an entirely different thread...




posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:34 AM
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Granted, if i was ignorant of the facts you could point that finger at me, but i am not.


Dont vote for McCain. Thats not racist or ageist.

I love humans from every country and race and Mccain doesnt.

His "Bomb bomb bomb, iran" song has lost the vote of most intellects and wealthy peoples and thats just one quote.


Well, if you love bush, like getting lied to in the media and from the white house, if you like high gas prices and hate non whites , if you want iranian children dead in the mothers laps, than vote for him. Its a free country.

After all, people did vote for hilter too.

of course this is Imo







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[edit on 18-7-2008 by IvanZana]



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:44 AM
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The only way I can think of to fail in porno films would be to use Phil Gramm as one of your stars.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
reply to post by IvanZana
 


It is an abuse of the pulpit to preach politics and whether Wright is screaming and shucking and jiving or standing still and speaking in a whisper his politics are both hateful and out of place.

The IRS should clamp down on all the churches that use their tax-exempt status to preach politics, but alas, it does not very high on the agenda.


We don't agree very often Grady but I agree with you 100% on this and give you a star for it as well.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by IvanZana

Originally posted by Dronetek
Well, Obama's mentor and spiritual adviser of 20 years is a racist hate monger. So, there ya go.




Your obviously uneducated in these matters. Sitting infront of your t.v all day long has made you ignorant to the whole truth.

If you researched these allegtions against his pastor you will see it was taken out of context and clipped to smear the Obama campaign.

Ignorance is alive and well.


[edit on 18-7-2008 by IvanZana]

[edit on 18-7-2008 by IvanZana]



You must have missed his press conference, after which all media mention of the "context" argument went out the window. Here he is in context saying stupid, hateful drivel.





posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by Dronetek
You must have missed his press conference, after which all media mention of the "context" argument went out the window. Here he is in context saying stupid, hateful drivel.




Youtube is blocked here. What are these videos about?



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:41 AM
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Tax free speech. Yeah, that's a good one.


Some bits of ATS are unbelievably disappointing these days.










[edit on 18-7-2008 by Areal51]



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by Dronetek
You must have missed his press conference, after which all media mention of the "context" argument went out the window. Here he is in context saying stupid, hateful drivel.


Youtube is blocked here. What are these videos about?




Hes answering questions at the National Press Club and comes across as a complete nut job with gems like:

-Attack on me is an attack all black churches!
-Repeats that white government created aids to kill blacks.
-Claimed most white Americans go to church by day and don KKK robes by night.


You really have to see it. Just reading words doesn't convey the wackiness. (like "journalists" applauding some of this crap)

[edit on 18-7-2008 by Dronetek]



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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Who? Rev. Wright?



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by Dronetek
 


Who? Rev. Wright?



Yep, Obama's 20 year mentor.




He came up thanks to the "associations" argument.

[edit on 18-7-2008 by Dronetek]



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:54 AM
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OK, now that we determines "who", "what" does this have to do with the topic?

"John McCain's chief economic advisor Phil Gramm is a failed pornography producer."



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