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reply posted on 10-7-2008 @ 03:50 PM by computerwiz32
reply to post by artvandalay



What area are you talking about ??? THE UK??? or the U.S.A??

I don't see any favoritism on muslims today nor any hatred to mulims today just some but it's getting rare.

Muslims been in the U.S before 9/11 and I know for a face most Americans never knew what are muslims and what is it before 9/11 now ones the TV media explained in their terms what Islam is and what muslims was their own view and version of it. Now every(at least most) americans that saw those tv shows and news programs. They now think they know what Islam is and what muslims is even thought they know only half of it. They don't know the whole religion.


I am living currently In the U.S I don't see any change there was one attemped in a city near by that wanted to call for prayer. They had the grant but then people in that city complained that ever 6:00AM their will be a call to prayer that would wake everyone up. So then the city then made the mausk to have other means of call to prayer like instead of calling with a microphone for prayer in the city then told them they can use cellphones to post a message as a reminder for prayer.

So now currently their is no call to prayer. yet their is a church near me and they on sunday at 6:00am do ring the bells and play the organ that wakes me up. So their is no favoritism to any religion in the U.S .

I havent seen anything in the U.S that would favor any religion.

I don't know about the UK I know UK muslims are really pushing too much to push for more islamic stuff but that's what I have heard on the news and even in the internet.

I do bealive that their are muslims their trying to push Islam in the UK.

I just don't bealive that Islam the religion wants us muslims to conqur the world and convert everyone to Islam I just don't see it.

All I see is properganda in the News. To create fear just so the U.S can do anything they want and justifiy it.

Now can someone tell me why did we go to Iraq???


reply posted on 10-7-2008 @ 03:51 PM by spitefulgod
reply to post by Terran Blue





Jesus bloody christ, someone get this guy a napkin, he is foaming at the mouth.


Good job you didn't prophet Bloody Mohamed otherwise you'd be facing the screams of "EXECUTE" while protesting Muslims demonstrate what they are going to do to you on their multiple (yet equally abused) wives.


reply posted on 10-7-2008 @ 03:54 PM by the_one_below
reply to post by artvandalay






[edit on 10-7-2008 by MemoryShock]



reply posted on 10-7-2008 @ 04:04 PM by computerwiz32
reply to post by thesun



I don't agree. countries shouldn't make it clear on their laws to immigrants.

Immagrants should already know the laws or at least try to learn it.

I think the country should at least show them how to find the laws on their own at least.


But I don't think it's the countries duty to do that.

I would smack anyone that comes to the U.S and tell us how we should run our country.

My aunt keeps on saying that the commercials on the TV should be banned like even movies for having sexual content in them.

I am like thinking to myself to like smack her for just saying that but I didn't.

I agree about that if you go to a country you should follow their rules.

So if immagrants come to America They should speak english or try to learn at least. Not just that They should not be allowed to tell us how we should run our own country.

I know Americans don't go to Iraq or pakistan and try telling telling them how to run their country.

I do think we give more respect to other countries then if their people come to the U.S

I also do seen a trend where people I know from pakistan come here and like make order statments like America should follow their orders. So that it would be just like pakistan so they will be confortable while we have to change our lives for them.

So I agree to you on that alot of immigrants from other countries try to change our laws or want use to change our ways to be more like thier county.

carry on...


reply posted on 10-7-2008 @ 04:15 PM by LetsTouch
Yeah and in canada they complain that they cant wear helmets because of turbans they won that battle. One guy wanted to carry a sword around they won that battle while kids get in trouble at school for having a nail clipper, My mother is a respiratory therapist and some muslim guy was in the hospital because he couldnt breath so he was admitted and his whole family decided to live in the hospital during visitor hours. They made such a fuss when they all didnt recieve free lunches that they got icecream when they can just go across the street to a supermarket or fast food. Then they demanded a life support machin e be sent to their house for the husband and that my mother stay after hours to teach them how to use it ..... just what the #$*#!! That battle is still going on. They complain so god **** much that people just throw the babies their suthers. If they dont like it they can go back to desert mud hut opium fields. Its like someone (Cananians) inviting someone (muslims) into their house (canada) and when we sit down to say our grace before meal they say uhhhh actually i dont really like you saying that in my presence and i dont like this cultlery or dishes ans this table is wobbly so geta new one whats wrong with you your all clean and smelling good. At some point we gotta stand up and say if you are not going to respect our ways and the way we accepted you into OUR society then get the F**** * *** @ *@**(#*&@*@$&#*&$(@^#&$( * ^$(#~*$(#*$ ( *#^$)(@ outta my house you )(&#$) )$&% )$)(&%* #*^&#^ ^@#%^! #$#$@#$%@ @% #@#^ Sorry for sounding so rude and blazin but this problem affects me in a very anoying way Great thread thanks for helping me vent



reply posted on 10-7-2008 @ 04:42 PM by _Phoenix_
Originally posted by computerwiz32
reply to
post by _Phoenix_




Just wanted to say Nice avatar...


Originally posted by spitefulgod
reply to post by computerwiz32



Agreed, is a photoshop filter of the real Pheonix?


Haha thanks guys, and no I am not her lol, I am a man. I had a feeling when I made this avatar that some might think I am a woman haha.

She is from a anime I started watching called Ergo Proxy.
en.wikipedia.org...

On topic.

umm..... let's all just get along. lol

[edit on 10-7-2008 by _Phoenix_]


reply posted on 10-7-2008 @ 05:52 PM by artvandalay
reply to post by Pjotr



You might not know the meaning of "evidence" then...

try wikipedia.


reply posted on 10-7-2008 @ 06:18 PM by mopusvindictus
You know, I'm American and Jewish... and I lead an ormal American life...

But I have to admit it's not a Muslim or a jewish thing, Armenians too are pushy as hell... Orthodox Jews in America drive me nuts, they follow regular ol Jews like me whereever we move and make demands of the culture and neighborhood...

It's that whole region, the whole mideast, they all Jews and Muslims from the region haggle over everything, change the area around them to be like the "old world"

and it's a shame because there are plenty of nice muslims who came here to get away from the bs over there...

It's not the religion, it's just a religion, people are scared of Islam because look at what Jews get done with the whole defend my culture thing and jews aren't a converting culture... Islam the 10% that goes for that methiod would change everything because Muslims will do exactly what we do as jews... side with their own when attacked...

and frankly i'm not doing it anymore, I don't like very much the Orthodox Jews that alter neighborhoods to their whims and beliefs and keep themselves outside the culture they live in...

and Muslims are worse because they have vast numbers...

I say everyone from that whole region needs a lesson in manners, Americans are rude when we go abroad sometimes and goofy... but we spend money and leave, middleeasterners come and stay and take over... They should be forced to comply with the culture they live in...

I'm sorry but G-d didn't tell me in any Torah I had to wear strange black clothes and prayer beads etc...some guy from the 14th century came up with that outfit... likewise, all the bs about animals and foods and customs in Islam, it came from men... G-d gave 10 commndments

Ever notice how it's always our prophits ...men, with all the goofy laws, G-d never says much does he... it's always some sales rep...

People shouldn't be rude, you move to a country you eat with the people you share their morals and rles anc customs...or don't come to stay...

every war revolves around this....


reply posted on 11-7-2008 @ 12:26 AM by Ownification
Originally posted by LetsTouch
Yeah and in canada they complain that they cant wear helmets because of turbans they won that battle. One guy wanted to carry a sword around they won that battle while kids get in trouble at school for having a nail clipper, My mother is a respiratory therapist and some muslim guy was in the hospital because he couldnt breath so he was admitted and his whole family decided to live in the hospital during visitor hours. They made such a fuss when they all didnt recieve free lunches that they got icecream when they can just go across the street to a supermarket or fast food. Then they demanded a life support machin e be sent to their house for the husband and that my mother stay after hours to teach them how to use it ..... just what the #$*#!! That battle is still going on. They complain so god **** much that people just throw the babies their suthers. If they dont like it they can go back to desert mud hut opium fields. Its like someone (Cananians) inviting someone (muslims) into their house (canada) and when we sit down to say our grace before meal they say uhhhh actually i dont really like you saying that in my presence and i dont like this cultlery or dishes ans this table is wobbly so geta new one whats wrong with you your all clean and smelling good. At some point we gotta stand up and say if you are not going to respect our ways and the way we accepted you into OUR society then get the F**** * *** @ *@**(#*&@*@$&#*&$(@^#&$( * ^$(#~*$(#*$ ( *#^$)(@ outta my house you )(&#$) )$&% )$)(&%* #*^&#^ ^@#%^! #$#$@#$%@ @% #@#^ Sorry for sounding so rude and blazin but this problem affects me in a very anoying way Great thread thanks for helping me vent

Islamophobia, have you ever heard of it than again it's probably not your fault, it's the media. You probably are not smart enough to think for your self which leads you to get brainwashed by the media speculations.

And one more thing Mr. LetsTouch, what's your 'ways'?? explain. How do Muslims not accept your ways??


reply posted on 11-7-2008 @ 03:55 AM by Pjotr
Originally posted by artvandalay
reply to
post by Pjotr



You might not know the meaning of "evidence" then...

try wikipedia.


Aha who is condescending now!?

Wikipedia is nothing compared to where I get my data.
All that I say is compiled out of research done by civilian and university research on demographics.

But I will give you something;
link islam in europe

Traditional Opinions

Is there a problem for women to combine work with kids?

There was not much difference over this question between native Dutch and immigrants. Overall 25% of men think that there is, leaving 75% who disagree. Women don't think there's a problem with combining work and raising children:
Of Dutch women, 84% see no problem with it, by Moroccans - 86%, and by Turkish - 83%

The differences between the groups come with other traditional views.

Are women more suitable to raise kids?
By men:
Dutch - 49%
Turks - 72%
Marrocans - 64%

By women:
Dutch - less than 25%
Turks - 52%
Moroccans - 41%

Would you say it's obvious that you want kids? Answering in the affirmative:
Dutch - men 25%, women 14%
Turks - men 68%, women 56%
Moroccans - men 64%, women 40%

Family violence

Most women seeking refuge are of non-Dutch origin. In 2001 59% of those seeking refuge were non-Dutch.

However, 'Muslim violence' does not fully account for this. The breakdown according to groups:
Dutch - 41%
Moroccan - 13%
Turks - 8%
Surinam and Dutch Antilles - 11% (this last group being generally non-Muslim)

The violence by Dutch is going down while by the Turks and Moroccans it's going up.

In the past 6 years, 8 women were reported killed in cases of 'honor killings' (breakdown: 3 Turks, 4 Afghans, 1 Iraqi)

'Honor killings', unlike other types of violence, are not condemned by the society. According to this article, this was a common phenomenon also in Roman Catholic lands around the Mediterranean before 'modernization'.

Last fall, police conducted a study in two regions (Haaglanden and Zuid Holland Zuid) to see how many times "family honor" was involved in cases in which police were called in. Overall "family honor" was the reason 79 times. In 30 cases violence was threatened, in 26 cases violence used, and 11 cases ended in death.

About 1.5 million people live in those two regions, which is about 10% of all Dutch. Taking into account the percentage of immigrants living in those areas, this comes out to an approximation that yearly in the Netherlands there are 22 cases of violence due to 'family honor' ending with death.


And since you love WIKIWiki demographics in Holland

research institute netherlands oon Islam sorry this one is Dutch, nut is also say (like I already pointed out) that the growth of the islam community is going down. They are getting less kids and are less focused on religion.

"Groei aantal allochtonen fors gedaald
In 2003 is het aantal niet-westerse allochtonen met 46 duizend
personen toegenomen, 19 duizend minder dan een
jaar eerder. Ten opzichte van 2000 is de groei bijna 30 duizend
lager. Deze daling vond vooral plaats bij de eerste
generatie. De belangrijkste oorzaak is de zeer sterke daling
van het saldo van immigratie en emigratie in 2003.
De bevolking van Nederland is in 2003 met ruim 65 duizend
personen toegenomen. Een jaar eerder was dat nog 87 duizend.
Het grootste deel van de groei bestond uit niet-westerse
allochtonen. Hun aantal nam met 46 duizend toe. Het
aantal autochtonen groeide met slechts 16 duizend.
De daling van de bevolkingsgroei in 2003 werd vooral veroorzaakt
door de sterk afgenomen groei van het aantal nietwesterse
allochtonen. Nederland telde op 1 januari 2004 bijna
16,3 miljoen inwoners, waarvan 1,4 miljoen westerse en
1,7 miljoen niet-westerse allochtonen.
Voor meer informatie: CBS-webmagazine 30 augustus
2004 (www.cbs.nl)"

Demographics show:
If all you people are so concerned about the islam there is only one thing you should do, and that is making more babies. It is all about numbers.

All that these numbers show is that :: Yes they are different, but htey are adapting and integrating.

I can't imagine what would happen with all the aggresive types in these threads if there would really land ET's on earth.
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