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reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 09:43 PM by Andrew E. Wiggin

theres nothing wrong with "jumping on obama"

i've done it myself

but to jump on obama with 1/2 truths, lies, gossip, and ridiculous claims is just plain sad.

Check out my sig if you want to see how you analyze a candidate

reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 09:47 PM by jamie83

Originally posted by Masisoar
And to think I thought we had some gleaming bit of hope coming from Barack Obama. I still maintain he has more character and more to him than Hillary but all of that means nothing when your mouth is just the puppet for the shadow of power behind you...

Obama and his handlers planned from day 1 to induce the emotion of "hope" in people, and then anchor Obama to that emotion. They did the same with "change."

This is what happens when an election is treated like a marketing campaign for the roll out of a new product. But people can see when there is no substance to back up the hype. People today, especially with the internet, are far more savvy than the old guard gives them credit for.

reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 09:48 PM by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Masisoar
Which candidate is backed by the World's Elite?

You'd have to define "elite" for me to answer that. But I suspect the answer is "both".

Originally posted by jetxnet
did Obama not make a pledge to only use Public Funding and not Private Sector donations? Yes or No?

No. He made a pledge to seek an agreement with John McCain. Their lawyers met, an agreement could not be reached or even approached and it was determined there was no reason for the candidates to discuss it further. Read the Campaign Finance thread.

Originally posted by Masisoar
And to think I thought we had some gleaming bit of hope coming from Barack Obama.

I believe we do. I don't think he's perfect and I don't think he's a Messiah, but I think he's the much better choice and has more integrity in his little finger than the whole current administration put together.

I still maintain he has more character and more to him than Hillary but all of that means nothing when your mouth is just the puppet for the shadow of power behind you...

I don't think he's a puppet. Just because he is getting finances from some corporations doesn't mean he's a puppet. He needs a lot of money to fight the crap he's having to deal with. HE could be like Ron Paul and not have a chance.

reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 10:51 PM by Andrew E. Wiggin

what makes him a puppet?

Democrats turned on the clintons, in favor of obama, because they're sick of the old way of doing things
im sure there are a lot of businesses who think the same way.

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reply posted on 20-6-2008 @ 11:45 PM by Cyberbian

Originally posted by Maya432
wow.. you can`t even make a simple thread asking a very simple question
without some shill/debunker coming in and asking the dumest questions to throw the whole discussion of topic....

Yadda Yadda!

This is deflection, Can a question ever be asked and given a straight answer? What gives you the moral high ground here, aside from arrogance?

If you had something to say you sure did not do it with this statement.

I repeat the question: I will not be silenced.
I am amazed that you would state that the Americans having a choice to fund the candidate they prefer is B.S.!

That is exactly what is happening with Obama. Don't you like it?

Lots of little individual Americans. Not a few major corporations. He will not accept donations over 10K so he is not indebted financially. Financial favors cannot be called in.

Does this threaten you or the people you work for?

Please explain! What else could this possibly mean?

And I do not accept deflection as a response. Answer the question directly or be seen for a shill, a manipulator and a hack.

Why is the idea of the individual American People having the power to promote a candidate they prefer to one funded by Corporations B.S.?
Does this threaten you or your employer?

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reply posted on 21-6-2008 @ 12:14 AM by Maya432

reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin

there all scum I just
put the equal signs spaced out...thought you would all see what I mean ....sorry
they should all have equal signs...

see what I mean about dumbing down a thread with dumb questions..

and YES the N.W,O and the worlds Elite are the same thing.

reply posted on 21-6-2008 @ 12:18 AM by Andrew E. Wiggin

reply to post by Maya432

They may be the same in your opinion.
But thats just your opinion.

You may say

NWO are full of elites
but its wrong to say
all elites are NWO

so by your own assertions, all politicians are elite
so all politicians are NWO
so we're all screwed.

Guess it doesnt matter who you vote for then.
My vote is for Obama.

and how is it dumbing down a thread to ask you to clarify what you post? Are you calling one person dumb because they can't read your mind?

when i look up synonyms for the word ELITE not once does anything resembling NWO pop up.

reply posted on 21-6-2008 @ 12:21 AM by Maya432

reply to post by Cyberbian

your so vain ,I bet you think the song was about you...

I was not even answering your post....
I was not referring to you or your question.

you just assumed I was talking to you and then you proceed to insult me.
and spew a whole lotta BS right at me ...

now I DIRECTLY expect an apology sir
or I will most definitely deem you a shill

man what a place.

reply posted on 21-6-2008 @ 12:29 AM by Maya432

reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin

yes the N.W.O is full of Elite and non-Elites too
No ........not all politicians are Elite
No...Not all Elites are N.W.O

your sure think you can read my mind or something there pal.

well you can`t and you were not even close on my assumptions...

and your right ...with the choices and un -fairness....you may as well not vote..

reply posted on 21-6-2008 @ 12:29 AM by Andrew E. Wiggin

who si more backed by the elites?

John McCain

he backs Bear and Stearns by saying that government bailout of the bank is only way to save the economy

he follows up that statement by saying we should not bail out people who can't afford to pay for their house

then we find out bear and stearns is under federal investigation for fraud

John McCain supports bailing out law-breaking fradulent banks who probably stuff his pockets with so much money he doesnt know where to spend it next.

reply posted on 21-6-2008 @ 05:19 PM by Masisoar

Which is the lesser of the two evils?

McCain doesn't have an apparent soft side and with his warhawkish personality, our brothers and sisters fighting in Iraq are probably going to get sent to Iran or who knows where.

Obama.. well it's hard to tell what he'll do. Certainly not

what his says :-\

reply posted on 22-6-2008 @ 02:44 AM by Andrew E. Wiggin

reply to post by Maya432

so how is one to know what to look out for when these eliteist NWO people come knocking at your door?

Is an elite NWO just someone who's political ideology differs from that of the observers' ?

Or is there a real methodology to detecting such an evil conspirator.

please. enlighten me

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reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 10:00 AM by Maya432

reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 10:11 AM by Maya432

reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin

these eliteist NWO people will definitely NOT come knocking at your door?

they will send your community enforcement agencies that belong to
the Military Industrial Complex that is the N.W.O .

with the power of the
Rothchilds
Rockeffellers
bushes
warburgs
Leehmans
ect ect ect ect

you don`t seem to be very educated in these matters.
I suggest a year or two of serious research into the
worlds power structure and history.

then you may be able to give some kind of worthy
contribution to these type of topics..

if all this is above your understanding..
then I will put it in Laymans terms.
TAKE THE BLUE PILL FOR HEAVEN`S SAKE.....lol

[edit on 23-6-2008 by Maya432]

reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 12:28 PM by Andrew E. Wiggin

reply to post by Maya432

you're very skilled in the realm of 3rd grade insults Maya.
I asked a simple question, based on this premise:
(and you couldnt even answer it)

In order for there to be a NWO, all governments and all militaristic heirarchies in the entire world have to be circumvented or overthrown.

It is human nature to say "you are not better than me" so "why do i have to listen to you" in other words: A power struggle

So in order for one to rise to such overwhelming power - they would have to have overwhelming support

how do you muster support before you over throw every government in the world?
Propaganda

what is propaganda?

*knock knock knock*
Hello, ma'am, my name is Yuself Schmitdam, and i am here to talk with you about our new way of life (subtitled: NWO)

You are very full of yourself, maya, and one has to wonder why.

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reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 10:04 PM by Maya432

well you can`t overthrow them...
they have all the power...
unless the whole world got together and said enough, then we do nothing..
we talk about it...argue about it...debate....

but there is nothing you can do .

can you muster together 5 or 6 billion people for a cause?......nope
geez... who can? no one...thats who
unless someone had a VERY VERY PEACEFUL and unique angle
that would unite the world.