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Originally posted by joecamel
Barack Obama is a problem because of the support he's receiving. There's a lot of doubt here, on a board full of people who actively search things out to be pessimistic about, but in the liberal world he can do no wrong. The last time "a president could do no wrong," he took us into Iraq. So I think the one thing America doesn't need right now is another president who's supporters will give him 100% no matter what and tell everyone else to get with the program.
And are there... ahem... people who will not vote for Obama because of his skin color? Most assuredly. There's a whole movement, in fact.
Originally posted by loam
Eight years and we apparently learned nothing.
Originally posted by joecamel
Barack Obama is a problem because of the support he's receiving. There's a lot of doubt here, on a board full of people who actively search things out to be pessimistic about, but in the liberal world he can do no wrong.
The last time "a president could do no wrong," he took us into Iraq.
I'd like to elect somebody who's going to keep America on their toes.
Since when did DEMOCRATS start embracing smooth-talking Ivy Leaguers?
Originally posted by TruthWithin
It certainly seems that many people on this site are so concerned about Obama being president, mostly basing their opinions on false rumors spread across the internets.
This condition is known as Baracknophobia and was coined on the daily show with Jon Stewart. It shows the ineptitude of the MSM spreading horrible lies. It reminded me of a lot of the recent posts here, so I thought I would share.
[edit on 17-6-2008 by TruthWithin]
Originally posted by poet1b
What I am disgusted about is Obamaphiles lack of interest in discussing the issues.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by poet1b
What I am disgusted about is Obamaphiles lack of interest in discussing the issues.
(You know, calling someone an "Obamaphile" simply because they're voting for him is the same as calling someone a racist simply because they're NOT. It's based on assumption...)
Originally posted by blackthorne
reply to post by Hal9000
i like what you said about the dictator part. that would describe the current occupant more than obama. bush has acted like a king. aided and abetted by, for the most part a republican congress up till last year. signing statements more than almost any other president, COMBINED. executive orders and executive priviledge used to keep us, his employers, in the dark about what is going on in our government. so to be afraid of abama who wants to help people, other than oil companies and big business is crazy.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Actually, "Obamaphile" has been defined here as someone who blindly and/or dogmatically supports Obama to the point of ignoring any real problems with Obama and/or his campaign. An Obama sycophant, if you will. So, it is not just someone who is voting for him.
Originally posted by Hal9000
"The Obaminator"...
That sounds like Benevolent Heretic.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
This country has been heading for a precipice for years now. The people feel like there is no hope. And along comes Barack Obama with a message of hope, some great ideas, some OK ideas and some bad ideas, but the most important thing is that he's someone who has a chance to "save" this country form the downward spiraling spinout that GW Bush has put us in.
So, yeah, to some, he feels a little like a savior.
Originally posted by Hal9000
Let me tell you something. It is BECAUSE of George Bush and the neocon administration is exactly why I AM supporting Obama. We can't have a third term of GB, which is what we will have if McCain is elected. Obama if anything is inspiring, and he is saying he will end the war in Iraq, which you complained about. McCain wants to keep it going.
I think you had better check your logic function, or at least upgrade it.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
But Obama is 180 degrees out from Bush. He's the exact opposite. Bush = BAD. Obama = Good. Not perfect, but good.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Like who? There's no chance that Ron Paul would get elected. And I disagree with him on more things than I disagree with Obama on.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm not a democrat, but what's wrong with an intelligent, educated man who is articulate and has a good positive vision for this country? What exactly would be wrong with a JFK?
Originally posted by joecamel
It's this kind of juvenile defensiveness that turns me off. Do you really feel like you have to boil it down for me?
I'm not looking for a mythic contender to put the system in its place. I want a guy the American people are going to keep up with and stay vocal about.
JFK was an idealistic GWB.
But Obama does not have my trust. He's just another guy in the system. Nothing more, nothing less.
Originally posted by joecamel
It's this kind of juvenile defensiveness that turns me off. Do you really feel like you have to boil it down for me? "Let me tell you something." Like there's just something I haven't considered? "Bush = Bad. Obama = Good." Like all of a sudden your equation is going to bring it all together? "He's the exact opposite. 180 degrees." That kind of thing shouldn't exist in nature, and when it does, it usually means the two are connected somehow.