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posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 04:45 PM
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"This seems to be the common comment from Obama supporters. I know a lot of people and I only know ONE person who has stated that he will not vote for a black man."

hmm. maybe this will point out how prevalent racism is: /6fwvss
Texas GOP button: "If Obama wins, will it still be the White House?"

"I also dislike his plans to send money overseas when we're struggling at home. I've read the bill and despite estimates that it's going to cost next to nothing...there's no amount defined within the bill. The UN seems to think we should be sending an enormous amount of money overseas to help and I'm afraid Obama is going to go along with their opinion."

You mean like the Billions spent on the palatial U.S. Embassy in Iraq not to mention the Iraq War itself: youtube.com... Can YOU afford $250/mo for a war without purpose? The war in Iraq has cost each American $16,000 dollars - essentially placed on a credit card so our children can pay interest to China and other countries.

Perhaps that money could be better spent on improving OUR infrastructure instead of destroying Iraq's. While the current administration has been drumming up fears of terrorist attacks that might wipe out a city, we've lost New Orleans, Cedar Rapids, Des Moines, and potentially a lot more cities to come along the Mississippi due to aging levees and bad environmental policies.

And each daisy-cutter that's dropped (98% of casualties are civilian) may kill a few terrorists but creates dozens of NEW ones. If we win in Iraq, what are we winning?

Worried about the economy? Check out Ross Perot's latest charts: perotcharts.com... Take a good look at the budget from 1992-2000. That was a democrat. Don't just swallow the tax & spend propaganda the GOP spreads about the democrats. Trickle down economics is bunk. Tax breaks for the rich do nothing for the economy.

Peace,
steve mixdorf




posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 07:37 PM
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The problem with Obama is that people can not get out of their minds to have a black male in the white house.


The problem with Obama followers who ignorantly assume that Obama's skin color has anything to do with why people dislike him, is that they are so high on crack they don't know anything about Obama OTHER than his skin color.

Do you see the silliness in the statement????

Are there crackheads out there that support Obama although they know nothing more than his name and color of his skin? Probably. Does that make it appropriate to throw all Obama supporters into the crackhead category?

What is it going to take for everyone to STOP using race as an excuse?

Jemison



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Jemison
Are there crackheads out there that support Obama although they know nothing more than his name and color of his skin? Probably.


And are there... ahem... people who will not vote for Obama because of his skin color? Most assuredly. There's a whole movement, in fact.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's not right to automatically assume that if someone doesn't support Obama it's because of his race (but it FOES happen). It's likewise not right to automatically assume that if someone does support Obama it's because of "white guilt" (although it does happen.

This door swings both ways and either way it goes, someone gets smacked in the face. :bnghd:

[edit on 17-6-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:03 PM
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I was going to reply to this thread making a point similar to yours-- though perhaps with a little less pizazz.


I am finding it really irritating that when I mention I'm not thrilled about an Obama presidency, the first assumption appears to be that it's because he's a black man.


I do NOT happen to think it a "false rumor" that the man is too inexperienced...has the wrong strategies for many of our problems...and is far from any vehicle of real change that could be brought to Washington.



And just in case anyone is wondering, I'm not thrilled about McCain either.

In fact, I'm absolutely disgusted that at this critical time in our nation's history, these are the best two options our political system could produce.

:shk:



*sigh*

Wake me up in another four years if there is anything left to be awake for...



[edit on 17-6-2008 by loam]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:16 PM
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No, I won't stop using Obama's skin color as an excuse because is not an excuse is reality in American people are not color blind yet.


Is ignorant to assume and presume and ignore that race and gender are not an issues when it comes to the political views of many in our nation .

[edit on 17-6-2008 by marg6043]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:22 PM
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If you disagree with Hussein Obama, you can't win.

I'm with Martin Luther King on this one. Judge the content of his character, not the color of his skin. But even if you try to do just that, the real racists insist on throwing in the color issue, and downplay any character issues.

Character issues with Obama.

20 year association with Reverand Wright.

Friendship with William Ayers, the unrepentent member of the Weather Underground, a group which was responsible for several bombings, including the Pentagon, from 1970-1974.

His continuous references to white people as "white folk"

His association with the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farakhan.

The only part race plays into this is that there are far more people voting for this guy because he is black, than those who won't because he is.

The only difference is that the people voting for him because he is black, fall for such catchphrases as "change and hope" and don't really care what else he stands for.

By the way, remember when Jon Stewart used to be funny? Me Neither.

[edit on 17-6-2008 by RRconservative]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:24 PM
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I have Baracknophobia because he is a slimy, populist demagogue. He’s selling quick-fix easy solutions to witless people that want the government to hold their hands and wipe their nose. He’s un-American. He’s a slick talking socialist who would undermine the sacred ideals and tenets that made this country what it is.

The Left likes to brand people, whom they disagree with, with a denigrating label such as racist, homophobe, etc. That’s because they can’t rationally defend their positions which are usually based on touchy-feely emotion and feel good solutions instead of reason and reality. Therefore, they don’t debate, they just resort to third -grader name calling to repudiate their opponents.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:32 PM
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Just exactly correct. Trying to enlighten people that his ideas will 1: NOT work, and 2: will cost the middle class and also the poor he so grandly states he's here to help, any chance of 'changing ' there lot in life. It will keep everyone under the thumb of a welfare state. Either those that collect or those that bere the burden of the taxes needed for payment of the programs!!

Zindo



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
The problem with Obama is that people can not get out of their minds to have a black male in the white house.

Many can never get over the ingrained stereotype of a president, middle age or older white male.

For many people this is becoming something close to obscene and unprecedented.

I call it history in the making and about darn time.


no. what's obscene here are ludicrous statements like backed by vapor, where the implication is that anyone not satisfied with a candidates experience or platform is a racist or has issues with race over substance.

very few people are concerned with his race, despite what the moronic talking heads with countless hours of air time to fill babble about. and this was proven in the primaries.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:40 PM
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What gets me is were screwed either way it goes.

If Obama gets elected were screwed because the man is a lunatic that Makes Carter look sane.

If he doesn't get elected the media in general and liberal media especially will be saying it's proof America is filled with racist, ignorant bastards.

Lose/lose. I doubt I'll even bother to vote this time around.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:49 PM
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I wonder how many of you that are bashing Obama, also voted for Dubya?

For those wondering about his social programs and where the money will come from... why aren't you questioning how much we have spent on an illegal war and who is going to pay for it? Our country has been run like a frat house, and the idiot in charge is leaving office (knock on wood) having made millions off the war machine he is invested in. But all the bills he charged have not been paid yet. Who is going to pay them?

At least Obama wants to invest in THIS Country, and not just run it into the ground like Bush has.

You Obama bashers should watch that Stewart clip again... hint hint... he is talking about you!



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 08:56 PM
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Don't even go there with me. My post history makes it pretty clear where I stand on the current administration.

I was crying LUNATIC BOZO long before anyone else and while most were gladly gorging themselves on the "I'm a uniter, not a divider" slop...

Hmmm...I wonder who is carrying the mantle of that message in the current race?

I'm pretty sure history is repeating itself. Either man (McCain or Obama)....same result.

In fact, they should just run together on the same ticket and demonstrate with finality the complete idiocy of the American electorate.

Maybe it would wake some people up for a change.


[edit on 17-6-2008 by loam]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:01 PM
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C'mon, guys. This is supposed to be funny. What say we lighten up a bit?


This is political comedy. It's a funny piece (even though not all find it funny) And the name: Baracknophobia... Classic!



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:04 PM
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speaking of the title...there's a typo in the topic title you might want to fix? this is not a one-line post.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by yankeerose
I wonder how many of you that are bashing Obama, also voted for Dubya?

You Obama bashers should watch that Stewart clip again... hint hint... he is talking about you!



To yankeerose, in Defense of loam:

You’re just seeing those of us in the middle speaking out. That’s one of the great things about ATS; we can say here what we never see on FOX v. CNN.

The fact is that some of us don’t support either of your stands. We don’t support an ochlocrat or a plutocrat. We don’t want them wasting our money for either of their demented crusades, be it “free” health care or a foreign war.

You, on both of the extremes, always want to assume that we belong to the other camp if we dare to disagree with one of your peculiar little orthodoxies. You can’t bear the thought that we might be really independent minded and not blindly follow your party line in everything it espouses. To both sides, we are heretics. And neither of you can stand us for it.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:17 PM
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Well I thought this video was funny, but when you are the brunt of a joke I guess you tend to loose your sense of humor.

I know one claim that hasn't been made yet. Where is the "Obama is a Reptilian Alien" thread?

[edit on 6/17/2008 by Hal9000]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:32 PM
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You're trying to disguise, as is the Liberal Media, the real issues surrounding Obama's character by making up these silly "disease" like labels. Obama claimed the truth about him circulating the Internet was "virulent", well let the truth be known.

I guess you could say anyone led to the water by Obama's BS have Sheepleitus.

With that said, you can view everything that Obama doesn't want you to know in one location below:

www.dontvoteobama.net...

Obama may be able to control most of the media and Liberal businessmen, but he can't control those who will reveal the real truth about him on the Internet.



[edit on 17-6-2008 by jetxnet]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:38 PM
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No. I don't suffer from Baracknophobia. I simply don't believe he is the BEST choice amongst those the U.S. are presented with. I could care less about gender, ethnicity, sexual preference. simple.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:41 PM
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I actually couldn't see the video for some reason. No sound and no patience to figure out why. But the OP says plenty to comment upon.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:45 PM
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Barack Obama is a problem because of the support he's receiving. There's a lot of doubt here, on a board full of people who actively search things out to be pessimistic about, but in the liberal world he can do no wrong. The last time "a president could do no wrong," he took us into Iraq. So I think the one thing America doesn't need right now is another president who's supporters will give him 100% no matter what and tell everyone else to get with the program.

I've actually lost friends over this! All I said was "I'm not so sure about Obama," and the looks started and suddenly nobody's calling anymore? I'm not going to elect a guy who creates that kind of devotion. Cultish, in some respects, for some people. Generally speaking, here.

I'd like to elect somebody who's going to keep America on their toes. Somebody who's going to make people stay critical and keep a keen eye on them. Not a guy who everyone thinks can reshape politics with his bare, Lincoln-like hands. Everyone is absolutely correct when they say this election is a crossroads for American politics - it's the first time Americans have cared about politics in a long time. So why oh why are we so quick to fall in line behind someone??

Since when did DEMOCRATS start embracing smooth-talking Ivy Leaguers? Isn't always knowing what to say a sign of having thought about it too much? C'mon people!!






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