I believe that we can say with full certainty that there is a galactic counsel in existence, and that our fears of what lies out there are unfounded.
I am writing this thread as a witness to multiple UFO sightings, and as a person who sees the idea of aliens that could communicate with us as a foregone conclusion. That said, I also believe that there are species and creatures that exist in parallel dimensions, as well as some Alien species that may have such a different chemistry or make up that they are separate from all other "races" in the Galaxy. That it is possible that not all species fall in this council.

So how can I say this with absolute certainty? Read on and I will present my case...

I don't know how many of you are familiar with the term "prime directive"? This term comes from the fictional universe that exists within Star Trek. I am not a trekkie, but did read one of the books and have seen some of the movies. The term refers to the galactic rule of not interfering with, or presenting ourselves to, planetary species that do not yet have the "warp drive" technology.

I believe that this was decided for multiple reasons, but the main one being the events that lead to such an invention would have to be the product of a mature and scientific society that had reached conclusions regarding the overall promotion of peace and advancement..

The point is, and I will lay it out, is that I believe that there has to be a plan for us that comes from the other beings in this Galaxy. That although some of these civilizations may not even register who or what we are, there are others who do.

So here are the four points, as I see them...

1) Multiple Alien species exist.
What does this prove? Well, we all know of Drakes equation, and using that, we can assume that there are thousands of planets where life evolved to advanced societies. Assuming all sorts of issues, from sudden ELE's to war, are overcome, there would be dozens, if not hundreds of alien species that conquered interstellar travel.
This would have resulted in multiple species exploring the universe at once. And this would require a governing body, for trade and conflict, etc.
We have multiple witnesses here on earth that relate events that have different aliens, and different types of ships. From the Greys to the Reptilians, and then the shadow people and the others. If multiple aliens are combing through the universe, then it would mean....

2) We do not have a plan for contact, but they will.
Although there are probably a few government agencies that have preliminary contact protocol, I doubt that any major institution has a ground up plan for dealing with initiation to Alien life. I don't think that there is the ability to prepare for such a varying possibility. I will say this however, it is possible that we have already begun this process. But that only proves my point.
If multiple species are roaming the galaxy, then they have already established protocol for this very contingency. They have decided the best ways to integrate said civilizations, as well as deciding the requirements for this contact. Other than the possibility of rogue species, and other dimensional beings, then it makes no sense that there are many species, and they have not contacted each other. And that through that contact, they have adopted a ruling body that regulates such things.

3) We may be a pawn in an intergalactic political battle. A Missouri compromise of sorts.
I will accept that some witnesses have seen what is believed to be conflict between varying races. Although I highly doubt this planet has anything unique to it other than Man himself, I can see, based on our own society, that there may still be cause to interfere or abuse the greater abilities of the advanced alien race. There are cons in every society, as well as murderers and such.
And just as we have separate parties in our own government, it is only natural to believe that there may be two sides to an issue involving our adoption into the federation. Not to mention that there may be warring sides in the outer worlds.

4) They are not here to harvest us or our resources.
I think that it is safe to say that if all of our resources are around the universe, they don't need to strip mine us here on Earth. That is not to say that our volcanos or thunderstorms may not be intergalactic gas stations, but not in the conquering sort of way. And I won't put it past some members of the council, or other outside beings, to experiment on us. But lets face it. If we can almost do cloning, then don't you think that a superior races could grab a dozen or so people and be done with us? Why go to all this trouble of enslaving us?


Anyway, that is it. I think that using this theory, one could go to bed at night knowing that "War of the Worlds" is just a movie. I know the thread title is slightly misleading, but can you argue with it?

admin edit: Corrected title to more accurately reflect the content.

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[edit on 6-10-2008 by Springer]

I enjoyed your presentation and the thought processes you have brought forth. Seems like you have done your homework and are on the right track.

If I may ask, what have your encounters been with reguards to your experiences?

I've always thought that if aliens do exist they are waiting to we as a species mature and are able to advance more past our current stages. I think the theory of us being a pawn in a political agenda on a universal level is very possible.

Instead of conquering each planet maybe these aliens help these colonies/civilizations develop and when they have developed enough they introduce them to the universe through THEIR own viewpoint. Which would make the younger civilization more likely to follow it's big brothers footsteps so to say.

heres to hoping the dudes watching us got a good, peaceful plan for us humans.

I have a hard time believing in overtly agressive aliens too, to me it seems clear that more advanced = less violent and more linked with both nature and technology to the point that, well, you do not want, you have. I tend to think advanced civilizations dedicate at least part of their energy in helping others rise too.

Not that I consider agressive aliens a total impossibility, but I find it unlikely. And I very much doubt they would be subtle with less advanced peoples.

To me the whole agressive alien theme, so common with hollywood, is more a reflection of our own shortcomings and perhaps also a bit of fear based social engineering, because if the whole telepathic contact thing is possible, those that lose predominance from an awakening and evolution of our society would want to keep it from happening.

As someone who has meditated to the point of seeing lights in the sky, I suspect it might be possibly to telepathically connect to alien intelligences, but I'll admit I'm still at that ambiguous WTF phase regarding this whole issue. Technological UFO's are real though, I have seen an unambiguos cigar shaped object which was neither aerodynamic, as it had no wings and was imobile, ballistic, as it was silent, or lighter than air, as it was holding position against the wind. And it had lights on it. Clear daylight sighting, in the UK, back in the early 80s. This one changed my life and has made UFO's a lifelong interest.

I too, think you did a good job with your presentation. I was already prepared to not view "proof", but rather "evidence", and I suppose I understand why you were motivated to create that header, and appreciate your acknowledging that it was deceptive. I think your heart is in the right place.

I've read much of this and other works that are relative to a council or other organized cooperative of "others" that allegedly interact with us on this planet. I wish I had your conviction. I'd really like to think that is true. I believe Clifford Stone, so by extension, there is little reason to disbelieve you. I frequently curious how people could KNOW so certainly, and, perhaps a bit envious as well.

Well-formed and written rhetoric you presented, and I thank you.

Yeah the whole concept of an entire alien species being violent seems ridiculous. Although like us humans I do believe there are some groups that are violent and conduct "criminal" actions. There's gotta be space pirates!

With the way things are going in the middle east I could possibly see a start of another World War. But recently I have been surprised by whats going on with other people. I sense a change somehow as if people are becoming more aware of whats going on and just sick of this useless they bombed us so lets bomb them rhetoric.

The first country that is attacked and refuses to deliver a counter attack will be the first one on its way to a higher way of life. Were stuck in this cycle of trying to fight violence with violence and that only breeds more enemies and violence.

I think the higher species is waiting for the masses to realize this as a whole and only then can they start to reveal themselves.

I too find the whole world in quarantine idea likely. The way I see it when we hit a certain technological mileston, and my guess would be first open air nuke, the aliens scrambled on the damage control and what might have been previously a very hands off indirect relationship suddenly got taken up a notch.

I'm just speculating, but it does make sense.

At the HUGE risk of sounding pathetic, could I ask a favor? If you liked this thread, please flag it. I hate that the articles I write seem to be ignored, while my inflammatory threads and breaking news articles are successful. Flags make for credibility.
I don't need the points, I am just interested in getting a larger audience and more stimulating debates.
Thanks for letting me say that with only mild retaliation, lol...



Edit because I wrote "right" instead of "write". I am so sad...

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Interestingly enough, Christianity at its very core would be the religion that carried us over "the proverbial hump". Before one argues that, please really look at what I am saying, and I am sure you will agree.

That notion aside, I have long lamented the failure of the religious and the scientific to come to a compromise. One negating the other creates a far more divisive society. The fact remains that we still pollute so many wonderful ideas, like socialism and capitalism. We pollute them by failing to stick to the very principles of their teaching, again, just like Christianity.

Due to these issues, I believe that most races outside of earth would hate to deal with us. Just read the thread in my sig. It would take a larger than life, transcendental event for all of us to come to the same page.

Lets face it, we suck right now.

P.S. Of course there will be space pirates, pthhbb, sheesh.

There's definitely an intergalactic council and they've set the standards
for intervention in Earthly affairs.

According to my sources they will and have intervened in nuclear weapon
emergencies. There have also been many dry runs over nuclear weapon
facilities where they've scrambled the codes or shut the power down.

One of the spiritual principles that they operate under is the true law
of karma. While the Prime directive of non-intervention is wonderful from
a scientific point of view it is also something based on these principles
of karma. Not too many advanced aliens want their individual karmic mindstream
to be pulled down into a earthly re-incarnation cycle.
Heck, if you lived on a planet where everyone gets to explore space and
everyone is fed and you get to go to other planets and help create peace
then why would you risk getting pulled into the lower earth as prison planet cycle?
Creating peace by intervening in nuclear war creates good karma but interacting with
lowlife misleaders like Bush and Putin could be negative when you tried to defend yourself.
If an alien kills even one human in self-defense the law of karma kicks in and that alien could be reborn on the earth due to this karmic link.

I am all for Disclosure.

The First Disclosure IMHO would be to what "We" are capable of. I want to know the truth about what I believe is an alternate reality here, now within our own species where by the technology transports people to many of the surviving planets still inhabited in our solar system, our Galaxy and beyond.

Just as we are to the newly discovered aborigine's, there exists already communities of earth Terran's far more advanced than even us to the Aborigine's.

I say give us our True Disclosure first, then the discovery of others in our shared existence will be much less necessary or impressive.

There's definitely an intergalactic council and they've set the standards
for intervention in Earthly affairs.

According to my sources they will and have intervened in nuclear weapon
emergencies. There have also been many dry runs over nuclear weapon
facilities where they've scrambled the codes or shut the power down.

One of the spiritual principles that they operate under is the true law
of karma. While the Prime directive of non-intervention is wonderful from
a scientific point of view it is also something based on these principles
of karma. Not too many advanced aliens want their individual karmic mindstream
to be pulled down into a earthly re-incarnation cycle.
Heck, if you lived on a planet where everyone gets to explore space and
everyone is fed and you get to go to other planets and help create peace
then why would you risk getting pulled into the lower earth as prison planet cycle?
Creating peace by intervening in nuclear war creates good karma but interacting with
lowlife misleaders like Bush and Putin could be negative when you tried to defend yourself. If an alien kills even one human in self-defense the law of karma kicks in and that alien could be reborn on the earth due to this karmic link.

[ One of the spiritual principles that they operate under is the true law
of karma. While the Prime directive of non-intervention is wonderful from
a scientific point of view it is also something based on these principles
of karma. Not too many advanced aliens want their individual karmic mindstream
to be pulled down into a earthly re-incarnation cycle.
Heck, if you lived on a planet where everyone gets to explore space and
everyone is fed and you get to go to other planets and help create peace
then why would you risk getting pulled into the lower earth as prison planet cycle?

Your comments remind me of why I tend to believe in string theories and the like. Also that there will be a total and complete shifting of the earths axis, which in turn will not only assist many to ascend at one time, yet will also usher in the lower astrals of the dimensions/strings below us.

I agree with much of what you say however I think where things veer
is that I feel for inclusion into the intergalactic council an alien race must be spiritually advanced.
I question whether the Greys are spiritually advanced.
It's not clear where you put them.
I feel that they are a roque group that operates outside the intergalactic
alliance with their own insect minded agenda.

And I feel that most people only study half of their own planet's spirituality.
There's a whole planet here folks and why would extraterrestrials be interested
in a person who only studies planets in a half-assed way. Most people are
way too limited in their thinking and not open to be candidates for helping
the intergalactic alliance. They need people who can be open to alien species
that look like a folded piece of bologna with tentacle eyes and ears that look
like conch shells made from yellow spam. I mean most people on this planet
can't handle a turban, dreadlocks or a Hare Krishna in an orange sheet. Even
I have problems with guys who wear handlebar mustache dreadlocks with
bits of dried tofu in their braided beard.

If I were an advanced race my first priority would not be to the humans, but the animal and botanicas, the waters of this planet.

These element are being monitored even now as we discuss this issue.

Careful Antar, your statement is bordering on misanthropy.
Not all humans are scumsuckers there are some great people in
this world and ironically they are the people who have a reverence
for all life. This compassion extends to themselves so they do not
make the mistake of being self-loathing. Not that you are -you strike
me as a reverence for all life, high-minded person.