Maybe, "Greys" are (us) from our future - being that they may have indeed evolved from Humans and have developed a level of technology that allows them to travel back through time to ensure their own survival & evolution.

That would be where the Novelty comes in, and the Universe is a novelty-conserving engine. Therefore should we assume that intergalactic travels is possible, we must also then presuppose that time travel is also possible as both are ideas so far removed from Levels of Novelty currently allowed withing the limitations of our Space/Time.

We currently do not know whether or not Artificial intelligence is possible, but surely when it comes into existence a New period of novelty will have been entered. We could then rightly assume that both the problems of time and space travel will be solved with the aid of this new Entity.

The AI will then create advanced simulations of the Universe and Calculate that 'Human' Time travelers are indeed responsible for the inexplicable changes in the Humanoids on this planet over the past 500 000 years - changes pointing towards an unavoidable conclusion.... That Mankind is a Genetic Experiment perpetually conducting itself as a Direct Result of the Laws of the Inverse Square and the Conservation of novelty.


The Proof of Genetic Engineering with our Genome is evident in the number of genetic flaws Humans have that no afflict no other species - including the Primates. The evidence for my theory is abundant. Just look at as chromosomes;

This is the most inexplicable difference of all. Primates have 48 chromosomes. Humans are considered vastly superior to them in a wide array of areas, yet somehow we have only 46 chromosomes! This begs the question of how could we lose two full chromosomes, which represents a lot of DNA, in the first place? And in the process, how could we become so much better? Nothing about it makes logical sense.

...and we're forgetting genetic Disorders. As with all wild animals (plants, too), primates have relatively few genetic disorders spread throughout their gene pools. Albinism is one that is common to many animal groups, as well as humans. But albinism does not stop an animal with it from growing up and passing the gene for it into the gene pool. Mostly, though, serious defects are quickly weeded out in the wild. Often parents or others in a group will do the job swiftly and surely. So wild gene pools stay relatively clear. In contrast, humans have over 4,000 genetic disorders, and several of those will absolutely kill every victim before reproduction is possible. This begs the question of how such defects could possibly get into the human gene pool in the first place, much less how do they remain widespread?

Originally posted by aleon1018
It would already appear that we've been manipulated by some types of intervention against that so called (star trek) primary directive. Crashed ships and reverse engineering them. Crashed ships with aliens cross breeding and possibly taking over human bodies etc.

What do you mean by "appear"? Why should anyone think anything like that? What evidence?

It would seem there's been intervention for thousands of years. For all we know, we were brought here to help our species survive and give it another chance. Without knowing the exact details of our history rather than fabricated ones, we're still lost in space.

Huh? Why would it seem like that? What are you talking about? We clearly evolved on this planet unless you are suggesting that all related species were also brought here as part of the cover story.

It would seem it's too soon to know who is who and their true agendas. Some here believe they are psychic. That could also be fabricated and an illusion. Just because a majority claiming to be psychic have the same interpretation or vision, doesn't mean it's real or accurate.

I believe they're made of gingerbread and also they have x-ray vision!

Originally posted by doctormcauley
Maybe, "Greys" are (us) from our future - being that they may have indeed evolved from Humans and have developed a level of technology that allows them to travel back through time to ensure their own survival & evolution.

First off, I don't believe in aliens anyway but if there are little grey men with two eyes, two arms and two legs, I'd be inclined to believe they are directly related to humans rather than having evolved on a completely different planet. Too unlikely that something would end up looking so much like us.

We currently do not know whether or not Artificial intelligence is possible, but surely when it comes into existence a New period of novelty will have been entered. We could then rightly assume that both the problems of time and space travel will be solved with the aid of this new Entity.

There is no reason to believe that human equivalent AI is impossible or even that far off. There is plenty of reason to believe that FTL is not possible. There are good arguments for and against time travel. In any case, AI is in no particular way related to the other two.

The AI will then create advanced simulations of the Universe and Calculate that 'Human' Time travelers are indeed responsible for the inexplicable changes in the Humanoids on this planet over the past 500 000 years - changes pointing towards an unavoidable conclusion.... That Mankind is a Genetic Experiment perpetually conducting itself as a Direct Result of the Laws of the Inverse Square and the Conservation of novelty.

Well now that's just wild speculation. Anyway, what you need for simulations is massive computing power. What you need for AI is massive computing power. You don't want to waste your computing power running an AI that you will then run a simulation on top of. You should just run the simulation. Don't waste your clock cycles.

The Proof of Genetic Engineering with our Genome is evident in the number of genetic flaws Humans have that no afflict no other species - including the Primates. The evidence for my theory is abundant. Just look at as chromosomes;

This is the most inexplicable difference of all. Primates have 48 chromosomes. Humans are considered vastly superior to them in a wide array of areas, yet somehow we have only 46 chromosomes! This begs the question of how could we lose two full chromosomes, which represents a lot of DNA, in the first place? And in the process, how could we become so much better? Nothing about it makes logical sense.

OK, 'Doctor'. You clearly don't understand a thing about genetics but I'll clue you in two points. 1) less chromosomes does not me less DNA or fewer genes. 2) less DNA does not mean a 'worse' creature. The concept of 'better' and 'worse' don't really mean what you think they mean in the first place but, in any case, they have no connection to how much DNA you have. Down Syndrome is the result of an extra chromosome, BTW.

...and we're forgetting genetic Disorders. As with all wild animals (plants, too), primates have relatively few genetic disorders spread throughout their gene pools. Albinism is one that is common to many animal groups, as well as humans. But albinism does not stop an animal with it from growing up and passing the gene for it into the gene pool. Mostly, though, serious defects are quickly weeded out in the wild. Often parents or others in a group will do the job swiftly and surely. So wild gene pools stay relatively clear. In contrast, humans have over 4,000 genetic disorders, and several of those will absolutely kill every victim before reproduction is possible. This begs the question of how such defects could possibly get into the human gene pool in the first place, much less how do they remain widespread?

You answered your own question. Humans take care of their unfit. Other animals do not.

The Galactic Alliance has gone on RED ALERT!

Increased activity is being seen over weapons installations.

This is already going on and Larry King has been ordered to
focus on debunking UFO's.

The Galactic Alliance scout ships are rearranging the codes in
nuclear missiles. They are rearranging the codes in Bush's home
computer and microwave. That's why they are being seen near
his ranch in Texas. The codes in Laura's vibrator have been tampered
with to get the resonance to change her brain waves so that she will
convince her husband not to nuke the planet just because he's as dumb
as belly button lint.

I believe that there are a number of 'federations' in existence in them being the Reticulans (Greys) the Reptilians and Insect type species, I have not looked into other but chances are there are more.

I guess it depends on which light people want to look at the situation in, in that from my view I think that the 'federations' are in direct conflict with each other. I dont think a specific federation will visit Earth and help us out in ways we expect.

I think more like the Reticulans are attempting to control and take over the Earth alongside the Reptillians working with them. It really comes down to whether you think the Earth will be saved or attacked, I think its attack myself