Mayan Elder speaks of 2012, page 1
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Topic started on 3-6-2008 @ 09:57 PM by jkrog08
I'm not sure what to think of this(I just found it on the internet)I personally believe in 2012 and thought I would post this statement for all here on "ATS" to read, let me know what you all think!

Mayan Elder Speaks
DON ALEJANDRO ... MAYAN ELDER
September 1999 ... Santa Fe, New Mexico


We are all here because it is our destiny, our mission. Spirit has called each of you here. You are special. I am no more special than you are. You are more than me. I am a poor Mayan. We do not have schools and universities like you do. We live in the poor countryside. What I have is given to me by my father. The Cosmos is the source of our knowledge. We study the Cosmos. Our books are the Mayan Codices. For us, this is our writing. The hand is a book. We have 5000 codices. We study these. We communicate with the invisible ones, the star people, who gave me my name,"Wandering Wolf." I come in fulfillment of the prophesies of the Mayan and Hopi, which says: "Those of the center will unite the eagle of the north and the condor of the south, because we are one, like the fingers of the hand." This means that the elders of Central America will unite with those of North and South America. This is a fulfillment of our prophesies, that is why I am here. our elder astronomers are watching over time and when it will be fulfilled. It shall be fulfilled in Twelve Baktun and it began on August 17, 1987, the Harmonic Convergence. It was then that I began my walk all over the world.
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reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 10:46 AM by Anti-Tyrant
reply to post by BradKell


Although i'm more of a Kurt Austin man myself, i'm actually quite interested in which book it is you speak of - any chance of being pointed in the right direction here?

Anyway, Saviour; I agree quite strongly with your sentiment, as after all there are literally thousands of such people in our cities who live there and make a livelihood by begging and doomsaying.

They've been telling us this all along, and all of a sudden we need some relic of an ancient time to tell us about it in order to get us moving?


reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 01:20 PM by JonInMichigan
reply to post by ignorant_ape




they myans had thier calender calculated to 2012 - because that was the end of the current baktun - a logical place to stop -
thats it - no mystery no catatstope predicted - just a ` new age ` which it would have been

the new millenium was hailed as a ` new age ` in the western world in exactly the same way


I totally agree with you on that point. 2012 is just next another future day people can focus on.

I'm just curious about something: I thought all the Mayans were dead, disappeared, poof gone! No one knows what became of them and there are none around to decrypt the codecies. Archeologists/Anthropologists figured out some of them like the calander and a few others but not all. And I didn't think we knew for sure (with out a bunch of inference) about their culture. That's what I thought anyway! So if my memory serves me correctly: How can he be a Mayan Elder? Can he explain what happened to them? Can he talk about folklore regarding their gods, culture, it's decline, and the supposed strories of visitors from the sky and sea?


reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 03:40 PM by Lethil
Originally posted by JonInMichigan
reply to post by ignorant_ape




they myans had thier calender calculated to 2012 - because that was the end of the current baktun - a logical place to stop -
thats it - no mystery no catatstope predicted - just a ` new age ` which it would have been

the new millenium was hailed as a ` new age ` in the western world in exactly the same way


I totally agree with you on that point. 2012 is just next another future day people can focus on.

I'm just curious about something: I thought all the Mayans were dead, disappeared, poof gone! No one knows what became of them and there are none around to decrypt the codecies. Archeologists/Anthropologists figured out some of them like the calander and a few others but not all. And I didn't think we knew for sure (with out a bunch of inference) about their culture. That's what I thought anyway! So if my memory serves me correctly: How can he be a Mayan Elder? Can he explain what happened to them? Can he talk about folklore regarding their gods, culture, it's decline, and the supposed strories of visitors from the sky and sea?


They have not gone poof,there are still millions of them,only most dont even know about there history.And ALOT but not all of the shamans you talk to...really dont know much...although some still do.As for 2012,agreed nothing big will come of it....except a galactic alignment that only happens every 26,000 years! Seeing a millenium and a 26,000 year alignment in one lifetime,dont get much better than that! Lungold has a good talk about 2012...it is a bit new agey...but i like it for its philosophical purposes.For one i had no idea the mayans dated the beggining of the universe at 16 billion years....if thats true.

www.youtube.com...

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