Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by polomontana
We don't have to leave these things "open."
We can come to a reasonable conclusion based on the evidence.
To a skeptic, a U.F.O. and the beings who fly them is not a reasonable conclusion so they come into the situation with a conclusion already
So these things have to remain "open" until they find an explanation that fits their pre-existing belief.
We can weigh the evidence within reason and come to a conclusion that these things exist beyond any reasonable doubt.
Look man, EVERYTHING is "open"
Nothing, I mean NOTHING is ever "closed"
For thousands of years people thought the Earth was flat and that the Earth was the center of the universe, with the sun rotating around it. This
were considered "closed" however that did not change the fact that new evidence had provided "proof" that these theories were incorrect.
So, as I hope you see, NOTHING is ever closed and everything we know is "open" to interpretation. Who knows? New evidence may one day prove that
the Earth really is flat. Everything is open to perception.
You can come to a reasonable conclusion and things still remain open.
I have come to the conclusion that extrterrestrial and extradimensial beings exist beyond any reasonable doubt based on the evidence not an
Where they come from and how they got here is still open.
All these pictures, video, trace evidence and eyewitness accounts remain "open" because exradimensional or extraterrestrial beings are not included
in the "natural explanation" in the mainstream.
A natural explanation is just one that fits what you already believe. These beings would be a "natural explanation" in the context of extra
dimensions or beings who are years ahead of us in evolution and technology.
So these things have to remain "open" until we find an explanation that fit's a pre-existing belief, for example weather balloons and lanterns.
I can say beyond any reasonable doubt that you can look until your blue in the face and you will not find an explanation outside of extradimensional
or extraterrestrial beings.
I posted a thread about open and unknown cases from Project Blue Book.
Witness: ex-AAF B-17 gunner (19 missions) N.E. Schroeder. One thin, bright ellipse, like polished metal, hovered for 5-8 seconds, dropped down 3,000'
in 3 seconds, hovered again and faded out after a total of 20 seconds in view.
Witness: mechanical engineer L.H. Hormer. One intensely white elliptical light changed to yellow, then orange, then pink, four or five times while
flying straight and level for 5 minutes.
Witness: P.L. Percharde, electrical engineer and assistant manager of Moeller Shipwrecker Co., of Okinawa. A line of blue lights, underneath. a blue
circle with a black center. Flew over ship and climbed, illuminating and agitating the clouds.
Witnesses: USAF Maj. W.J. Davis, Capt. R.D. Sauers, flying a C-47 transport plane. One dark blue oblong object paced the C-47, veered away, then
crossed in front of it. Five minute sighting.
Witnesses: 1st Officer H.G. Gardner, engineer J.V.D. Whitisy, flying Royal Dutch Airlines DC-4 (PH-DBZ). Three or four dark, lens-shaped objects
veered north and changed position in formation during the 10 minute sighting.
Witness: Lelah Stoker. One white round-topped disc, with a humanoid suspended beneath it, skimmed over the water, landed, and an occupant in a green
suit walked around. It then took off very, very fast. Sighting lasted 30 minutes.
11 unnamed civilian man. Watched for 1 hour while an undescribed object flew counterclockwise circles.
Witnesses: A. C. Urie and his two sons. A sky blue flying saucer slides fast at the bottom of the canyon where the witnesses were fishing. It follows
the contours of the ground and its description is that of a structured machine which cannot be of terrestrial origin.
Witnesses: Assistant Base Operations Officer Capt. William Rhyerd, ex-AAF B-29 pilot Ward Stewart. Watched for unknown length of time while two round,
shiny, white objects with estimated 15-25 foot diameters, flew 3-4 times the apparent speed of a P-80, also in sight. One object flew straight and
level, the other weaved from side-to-side like an escort fighter.
Over 700 cases that have remained "unknown" for decades.
How long do we have to wait until we can come to a reasonable conclusion?
This is just one small part within the totality of evidence within ufology.
Keeping these things open doesn't make sense.
The answer is in our face every day in pictures, videos and eyewitness accounts.
The thing that doesn't exist is this elusive "natural explanation."