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reply posted on 16-6-2008 @ 11:19 PM by BlasteR
IMO, A healthy life involves a fine line between paranoia and suspicion. It isn't too hard to imagine ATS being constantly monitered. Monitoring open discussions in ATS would be a vested interest of the government if any of these conspiracy theories are correct. Just to name a few.. 9/11, JFK, UFO's, Aliens, One World Government,etc...

Let's just look at UFO's alone..
We know that other governments have recently declassified UFO files. This is direct proof that such information would be kept classified by any government. .. Not just ours. We know that NASA has an encrypted radio comm channel on the space shuttle for astronauts to discuss UFO's. We know that astronauts have, on live television, called objects "alien spacecraft", and "UFO's". Don't even get me started on the video evidence which has been filmed, ironically, by the same organisation that sais UFO's don't exist. Then you have video footage taken from the ground of UFO's that correlate exactly with what NASA is videotaping in orbit. You have astronauts who have directly seen UFO's in orbit and admit to it. You have all the radio communications since the dawn of manned space flight which constantly depict encounters with unknown objects. And this is just for starters (If I keep going this post will be too long).

The point is that some conspiracies have more proof than others. But regardless of that, the government would have a vested interest in ensuring we are not getting too close to the truth, that we aren't learning too much. That way they can keep tabs on what information they can still claim as classified, as well as keep tabs on "us" in general and what we are discussing. Then you have disinformation.

-ChriS


reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 10:33 PM by clg79
In my honest opinion I would imagine the CIA or whoever would have the top computer guys working for them. In my somewhat knowledge of computers you could literally exploit the site, do a mass dump of data (from here to another server) and collect all the threads. Then create a data base where searching for key words would be a lot easier. Of course you'd have to have incredibly fast computers to get all the data here and even then have exploits nobody knew about (I don't have a clue).

So you would not need to have these guys come here to monitor the forums. They would have the top guys extracting information from this site without anyone knowing about it or with anyone leaving tracks.

But I'm sure if they wanted to know about who knows what they would make a thread (or even an entire website much like ATS) like this to determine how much truth is getting out of the bag. I'm not saying the OP works for them but eventually posts like these would drag people into a debate and eventually someone would speak out.

I'm not afraid of government agents nor am I afraid of little green men. Both are scared of the truth so they both hide the truth. Let them come here and post questions then we'd all gang up on them

But I do enjoy the many topics here on ATS and the moderators do a good job about keeping the site clean. I'm still learning about things here as I go along, but to me this is a very cool site. I'm also sure that if those supposed Agents were on here they'd be too busy having fun reading some of the information here (regardless if it is the truth or just another conspiracy).


reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 05:55 PM by jhill76
Let's take a look at intelligence.

Intelligence is the product resulting from the collection, processing, integration, analysis, evaluation, and interpretation of available information.

There are different types of collection:



  1. Open Source Collection
  2. Clandestine Collection
  3. Human Source Collection
  4. Technical Collection


What I originally posted falls under open source collection.
Sites like ATS are monitored by an analyst and assigned a threat level

It includes the acquisition of material posted in the public domain.

Sites like ATS are posted in the public domain, therefore domestic intelligence can easily be gathered from web sites including but not limited to ATS.

Just because we think ATS is a place where there are crazy threads, there are still those threads that tell THEM what the average American knows or is currently thinking.

We don't have to sit here and talk about nukes, even the smallest policy change at the local level that gets posted by an employee or, a new neighbor moving in that has an OC3 connection in his basement (very high bandwidth that you will not see in a home, 155 mbps, 100 T-1 Lines), all of these small things can crack the case for a much larger event in the future, we have to read behind the lines.

Most of the time, we want to see the smoking gun, but we also have to be weary of the little items. If they are gathering intelligence on us, why not turn the tables and gather intelligence on them. I am not talking about clandestine operations or anything illegal. I am talking about reporting the small things that just is not normal, like to sites like ATS. Maybe we can prevent the next 9/11. Most of us believe that 9/11 was not done, via the official account.


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 02:21 AM by BlasteR
reply to post by UFOTECH


Exactly. For the government, secrecy is the name of the game when it comes to the kind of conspiracies we discuss here on ATS. Logically, regardless of what conspiracies are real and what aren't, any government conspiracy is going to be covered-up to some degree. So at least in this aspect the truth can be extremely damaging to the government if anyone found out what they were hiding. It isn't so much whether or not we know that they're hiding information because as far as the UFO phenomenon alone the secrecy is mind-numbingly absurd. We know that government-UFO secrecy exists, we just don't know the full extent of the conspiracy.

And the fact that Britian just decided to declassify thousands of "UFO documents" is proof of concept that any government would want to withhold this information from the public. If Britian has seemingly endless supplies of UFO documents, its pretty hard to imagine the massive amount of information being kept secret by our government. Especially given all of the actual well-documented UFO cases, men in black, Roswell, Kecksburg, etc..etc..etc.. And that's only what we know of..

-ChriS


[edit on 17-8-2008 by BlasteR]



reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:41 PM by mf_luder
reply to post by ADVISOR


Okay.

The word that sums up what OP is referring to is OSINT. Open Source Intelligence. This is data gathered from newspapers, news feeds, sites, television, etc. This is data that is Unclassified and is available on the public domain - i.e. the internet.

This is primarily used to collect data about goings-on in the political world and in other countries so that it can be paired up with the stuff that carries a classification to make decisions about what is taking place.

I'm speaking from the military intelligence (don't care to hear the "oxymoron jokes" I probably have a higher education than most who would make fun) side of the house. As far as I know - WE - the military - don't watch ATS. But. You can see where this would lead. If there is another organization out there who is not affected by habeas corpus (the act that stops us from acting as a police force in the US) - they would be the ones watching sites like this.

If the Army does it to get info on things going on.... You can imagine it is being done through other organizations.

Now, that being said - as I pointed out in some girl's maniacal "OMG!!! Martial Law!!!" Post or some such... the government/military isn't sitting here just randomly coming through here collecting data on US civilians regardless of what you are posting. 9 times out of 10 if the subject of what you posted on a site like this comes up, it's after you've committed some type of heinous crime or in the case of OP, who is the dangerous vein of appearing to - if you've committed espionage. EO 12333 prevents us from actively collecting on US civilians.

Believe me or not. I don't really care. I know what training we received and what laws and guidelines I have to follow as a Special Agent. We can't just start compiling data and files on people unless a crime has been committed, and under the Freedom of Speech - some yuppie sitting in a dark room somewhere posting about how much they hate the US/Military/Republicans/Democrats/God/Snake-People - whatever is safe until they commit that first crime. Then, agents are allowed to collect information on them.

I hope that helps somewhat.
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